could jermy have walked to whf.

[nugnug]

as its impossble for jeremy to have driven there and the bike ride looks increasingly unlickely is it possble jeremy could of walked there and back.

[David1819]

No. Hypothetically he can walk to WHF but he cannot walk back.

If Jeremy walked back. That is a 1 hour and 25 minutes walk. That is assuming Jeremy is going by the average daytime walking speed on a flat surface. Once you apply Naismith's rule/Aitken corrections you are looking at a 1 hour and fifty-five minute walk from WHF back to Goldhanger. Making Sheila's TOD over 8 hours from when the photos were taken. Proving his innocence even more.

Not to mention all the time it will take Jeremy to put the silencer away, stage everything, construct his blood dam, put the coat over the mantle scratches and then climb outside to rearrange the items on the window seal before walking off.

[Adam]

as its impossble for jeremy to have driven there and the bike ride looks increasingly unlickely is it possble jeremy could of walked there and back.

Why is the bike ride 'increasingly umlikely' ?

Do you lnow something no one else knows. Or is it you're own chosen view ?

Do you believe it was just a coincidence that Bamber brought June's bike over to his cottage just before the massacre. Sorry I forgot, he brought the bike over so Julie could cycle to a train station when going home. How romantic.

[Caroline]

Yes.

[nugnug]

Why is the bike ride 'increasingly umlikely' ?

Do you lnow something no one else knows. Or is it you're own chosen view ?

Do you believe it was just a coincidence that Bamber brought June's bike over to his cottage just before the massacre. Sorry I forgot, he brought the bike over so Julie could cycle to a train station on her way home. How romantic.

the soil sampels.

[Adam]

the soil sampels.

What soil samples ?

Of course Bamber cycled to & from WHF. Julie seeing the bike just before the massacre, AE just after the massacre. In between Bamber making a 'mysterious' call to the police at 3.36am. Or was 3.26am ?

[nugnug]

the soil samples that were taken but noy used as evedence now surely if the soil on the bike matched the soil at or near whf the soil samples would confirm this.

soils samples were taken but nobody knows the reults of tests that would of been done.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8482.0.html

[Adam]

Yes.

Do you think Julie lied in her WS ?

[Adam]

the soil samples that were taken but noy used as evedence now surely if the soil on the bike matched the soil at or near whf the soil samples would confirm this.

soils samples were taken but nobody knows the reults of tests that would of been done.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8482.0.html

Soil samples. Of a bike forensically tested a month after the massacre. Yeah right.

[Steve_uk]

No. Hypothetically he can walk to WHF but he cannot walk back.

If Jeremy walked back. That is a 1 hour and 25 minutes walk. That is assuming Jeremy is going by the average daytime walking speed on a flat surface. Once you apply Naismith's rule/Aitken corrections you are looking at a 1 hour and fifty-five minute walk from WHF back to Goldhanger. Making Sheila's TOD over 8 hours from when the photos were taken. Proving his innocence even more.

Not to mention all the time it will take Jeremy to put the silencer away, stage everything, construct his blood dam, put the coat over the mantle scratches and then climb outside to rearrange the items on the window seal before walking off.

DI Wilkinson walked the route in 70 minutes. It's not theoretically impossible. Jeremy knew the short cuts. The problem with the bike ride is there were no tread tracks left within the confines of White House Farm. Maybe he cycled along the sea wall and hid the bicycle at a convenient distance, who knows? http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

[Adam]

DI Wilkinson walked the route in 70 minutes. It's not theoretically impossible. Jeremy knew the short cuts. The problem with the bike ride is there were no tread tracks left within the confines of White House Farm. Maybe he cycled along the sea wall and hid the bicycle at a convenient distance, who knows? http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

When did the police check for these. A month afterwards again ?

However agree Bamber may have left the bike a couple of minutes from WHF. A bike can be quite noisey.  Approaching WHF on foot would be a lot quieter & Bamber would be more mobile.

There was no reason to cycle right up to the bathroom window.

[David1819]

DI Wilkinson walked the route in 70 minutes. It's not theoretically impossible.

DI Wilkinson walked the route during the day. This tallies up with my own calculations based on google maps and the average daytime walking speed. But since this walk took place at night the average walking speed is 2.5mph as opposed to 3.1mph. Jeremy walking back after 'staging' everything would place Sheila's time of death around or before 1.30am.

The photos of Sheila taken after 9.30am show an absence of hypostasis and rigour mortis.  It's factually impossible.

[notsure]

Why is the bike ride 'increasingly umlikely' ?

Do you lnow something no one else knows. Or is it you're own chosen view ?

Do you believe it was just a coincidence that Bamber brought June's bike over to his cottage just before the massacre. Sorry I forgot, he brought the bike over so Julie could cycle to a train station when going home. How romantic.

You should have stopped this post at the word massacre. Up to that point it was fair then the sarcasm come into play. If you are a grown up Adam please stop it, it's just not necessary.

[Adam]

From the OS.

'The bicycle belonged to Jeremy's mother, but it had been brought to Jeremy’s house for Julie Mugford to use, so that she could cycle from Goldhanger to Toleshunt D'arcy, leaving the bike at the Red Lion Pub. She would then get the Osbourne's bus which runs from Tollesbury to Colchester.'

Three miles is no 5 minute cycle journey. Perhaps Bamber was busy under his sun bed.

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1647

From Julie's WS

'About June 1985 whilst I was out in the car with Jeremy he told me that he was being pressurised by his parents and he hoped that Sheila was coming to stay. He said that he would use a cycle to do it and would do a trial run to see how long it would take. He thought it would take………..?? (The rest of this page is missing, it looks like she could be saying 15 minutes to me).'

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15 minutes sounds about right. For me to cycle 3 miles from my postcode on a bike like June's, cross country,  would take about 15 minutes. To walk it would take around 50 minutes.

For Julie to cycle 3 miles would take longer. Unless she was a strong cyclist, which I've never read about her.