Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm

[susan]

..and Nevill somehow managed to inform Jeremy about the whole thing, but failed to prevent the massacre..

Steve maybe Julie could have prevented it

[Caroline]

Let's just say it's a niggle in my mind.  HorseyDave once posted that 'he knows more than he's letting on'.

I haven't managed to get rid of the niggle - yet.

Horsey Dave ended up being a Horsey Fraud and had never worked at WHF as he claimed.

[Roch]

Horsey Dave ended up being a Horsey Fraud and had never worked at WHF as he claimed.

HorseyDave was a bit of an enigma.  He seemed to be able to play both sides. 

[Caroline]

HorseyDave was a bit of an enigma.  He seemed to be able to play both sides.

That's probably what he was here for. Lots of people claim to know this, that and the other - often they really only seem to know that guy ....... ermm, what's his name again? Oh yeah ...... Jack Sh*t 

[Jane]

That doesn't mean they are stupid or want to get caught.

The point is, they're such egotists, and so confident, they don't believe they'll get caught.

[David1819]

Psychopaths are nature's risk takers.

If you want to talk about psychopathy and other immaterial aspects of this case.

We have Professor Egan's opinion that Jeremy is not a psychopath. Plus Mr Mullins opinion that Jeremy was not showing deception under polygraph questioning if he killed his family.

This complementary evidence if far more reliable than the unqualified nonsense people post on this forum.

[Caroline]

If you want to talk about psychopathy and other immaterial aspects of this case.

We have Professor Egan's opinion that Jeremy is not a psychopath. Plus Mr Mullins opinion that Jeremy was not showing deception under polygraph questioning if he killed his family.

This complementary evidence if far more reliable than the unqualified nonsense people post on this forum.

Didn't you recently state;

I will post some interesting developments on the scratches under the mantelpiece. Hopefully today.

It is an idea I am exploring. But considering that an amateur who no qualifications in cryptology cracked the Zodiac Killer's code. An amateur with no qualifications in astronomy or celestial mechanics  discovered planet. Your definition is ill-founded.

I think you need to follow you own line .....

Think you need to start taking your own advice Adam. 

[lookout]

The guilty always think that they can beat a machine ! Full of bravado when committing crimes,little knowing of the sensitivity of the pointer on the machine which picks up a lie within a hairs breadth of its movement. It only needs a slight increase in blood pressure and you've got your man.

There are the odd one or two who can control their blood pressure,but that's a fine art,but after all JB is dumb " he got caught " so therefore would have failed the test.

[Jane]

The guilty always think that they can beat a machine ! Full of bravado when committing crimes,little knowing of the sensitivity of the pointer on the machine which picks up a lie within a hairs breadth of its movement. It only needs a slight increase in blood pressure and you've got your man.

There are the odd one or two who can control their blood pressure,but that's a fine art,but after all JB is dumb " he got caught " so therefore would have failed the test.

I'd say it's innate ability. If one doesn't feel emotion and is super confident in one's ability to beat the 'box', anything's possible. The box is fallible which is why it's use is limited.

[lookout]

I'd say it's innate ability. If one doesn't feel emotion and is super confident in one's ability to beat the 'box', anything's possible. The box is fallible which is why it's use is limited.

I think there's more to the reason why the detectors are limited. Do-gooders would ban them altogether !

[Jane]

I think there's more to the reason why the detectors are limited. Do-gooders would ban them altogether !

Would that be so bad. I'd fail, no matter that I was as innocent as a new born.

[lookout]

Would that be so bad. I'd fail, no matter that I was as innocent as a new born.

So would I because my blood-pressure is ropey.

[Caroline]

So would I because my blood-pressure is ropey.

The test has counter measures to take things ike high blood pressure and nerves into account. But it's not a lie detector, it just detects stress changes.

[Caroline]

He's crooked. He concealed her wounds. I'm not sure where gall comes in to it.  He doesn't mention some of June's wounds either.  If all three adults have fight wounds, the prosecution case can't even get off the ground in a courtroom.  Join the dots.

If as you say Venezis was 'crooked', all he had to do was say the state of the body indicated murder. He never made that distinction so that would have bee in favour of Bamber.

Three adults didn't have fight wounds, you've just convinced yourself that that is the case. We will see where this goes but you can always claim corruption 'when' it goes nowhere.

[lookout]

The test has counter measures to take things ike high blood pressure and nerves into account. But it's not a lie detector, it just detects stress changes.

Exactly,so how would one know the difference in stress changes ?