Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm

[Jan]

Surely it would be those who issued the orders who would be culpable, rather than those junior to them who, hypothetically, had been threatened with retribution if they 'squealed'?

Well as in other notable cases , officers have never come forward until forced to I am sure there is a reason why they would not . And this might have varied between different forces and the attitude at the top of the chain?



But if you were an officer of the law and you were involved in knowingly withholding or changing evidence I would have thought legally you would still also be responsible . I am not sure that taking orders is an excuse . Was that not mentioned in other areas as well when whistleblowing protection was discussed in government circles ?

[susan]

Well as in other notable cases , officers have never come forward until forced to I am sure there is a reason why they would not . And this might have varied between different forces and the attitude at the top of the chain?



But if you were an officer of the law and you were involved in knowingly withholding or changing evidence I would have thought legally you would still also be responsible . I am not sure that taking orders is an excuse . Was that not mentioned in other areas as well when whistleblowing protection was discussed in government circles ?

Jan that is what I think whether or not you are not directly responsible for any wrong doing having the knowledge and doing nothing about is IMO guilty and you would be prosecuted unless a deal was done and you were not charged (kinda like Julie)

[Jane]

Well as in other notable cases , officers have never come forward until forced to I am sure there is a reason why they would not . And this might have varied between different forces and the attitude at the top of the chain?



But if you were an officer of the law and you were involved in knowingly withholding or changing evidence I would have thought legally you would still also be responsible . I am not sure that taking orders is an excuse . Was that not mentioned in other areas as well when whistleblowing protection was discussed in government circles ?

I don't pretend to be clear on the law, but if operants can be reprimanded for not carrying out orders, it seems to me that they aren't responsible for the orders given.

[guest7363]

Was it not Enigma?

Nah, Cyclops and Z like I said.

The evidence I am about to pist will free Jeremy Bamber in bail pending appeal, within days of me pisting up the evidence...

My informant 'Z', and Cyclops have told me that the time has now cone, to either out up, or shut up...

I will pist the evidence

[Jan]

Nah, Cyclops and Z like I said.

The evidence I am about to pist will free Jeremy Bamber in bail pending appeal, within days of me pisting up the evidence...

My informant 'Z', and Cyclops have told me that the time has now cone, to either out up, or shut up...

I will pist the evidence

Was that spelling a deliberate mistake ? It's a bit early to be on the 🍻

[guest7363]

Was that spelling a deliberate mistake ? It's a bit early to be on the 🍻

No Jan that is how Mike Spelt it.

Look in here,  post one.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6437.0.html

[Jane]

Was that spelling a deliberate mistake ? It's a bit early to be on the 🍻

Wasn't it Clouseau speak?

[Jan]

No Jan that is how Mike Spelt it.

Look in here,  post one.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6437.0.html

I guessed as much .

[guest7363]

Looks like this man studied List  of photographs?

His words, She did not commit suicide but, like the other four victims, was shot to death by someone else.

I'm sure you will be disappointed with my findings, however, the physical evidence I have discussed appears OBVIOUS.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=264.0;attach=20302;image

[guest7363]

If you read this report, I wonder which photos he wasn't allowed to duplicate due to an agreement?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=264.0;attach=20301;image

[guest7363]

Any chance someone could put this into Statements and Transcripts please?

It's Proff Knights court transcripts.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7008.0.html

[Jan]

 I really hope then that she did not just commit suicide before the police entered and they moved the body  gun or bible for the photos because if they did and the silencer was never on the gun then it would be an explanation for what he found .

It was  officers themselves who commented that the gun and bible were in a different position in the photos to what they had seen originally .

Which is strange because in Adams first statement he never even mentions going into the house . He said he went back to the station . Then I think if memory serves me right he makes that comment.

Also the officer who heard a noise upstairs said it was another officer in the office .  But that officer seems to say he was by the door and stayed there for quite a while and then only went in storerooms .

It's all very confusing and it is the statements that make it so.

[Zoso]

Any chance someone could put this into Statements and Transcripts please?

It's Proff Knights court transcripts.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7008.0.html

Done 

[David1819]

Looks like this man studied List  of photographs?

His words, She did not commit suicide but, like the other four victims, was shot to death by someone else.

I'm sure you will be disappointed with my findings, however, the physical evidence I have discussed appears OBVIOUS.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=264.0;attach=20302;image

I'm sure you will be disappointed to hear that Prof McDonnell recanted on his 1992 conclusions.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8025.msg380343.html#msg380343

[Steve_uk]

I'm sure you will be disappointed to hear that Prof McDonnell recanted on his 1992 conclusions.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8025.msg380343.html#msg380343

In other words, nobody could tell whether a poor, vulnerable, mentally-ill young woman had shot herself or someone else had guided her hand whilst the fatal reports blasted out..