Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm

[Steve_uk]

Has she said she categorically knew on the night? Has she said she even suspected on the night?
I can't remember without going through her statements again.

She must have discussed things with JB afterwards at some stage though, perhaps she became more suspicious which made JB come up with the hit man story (if indeed he did).

I think she knew after the second telephone call to her digs at Caterham Road:

"I lay in bed but did not go to sleep as I knew that Jerry had murdered his family."

[guest2181]

Yeah, I can go with that, H. I can't say categorically what I'd have done, but it would probably have involved a lot of vomiting through sheer terror.

I'd have to agree. I think I'd be happy (happy is the wrong word) to do the identification, but not with the knowledge of who was responsible.

Of course it may be possible that Julie is not like you and I. You only have to look at the people who get turned on by killers, some of the most evil killers behind bars seem to have a string of fans, even with the knowledge of their actions.

[Jan]

Page 13 of her sept statement.

I lay in bed but did not go to sleep as I knew that Jeremy had murdered his family.



Her words .

[guest2181]

Yes after the second phone call to the house .

Could that not have been the case, and she simply added embellishment later on?

[Adam]

It's likely the police asked Julie to identify the twins. They had already turned down another person as she had spoken to the media.

There was no one else there who could tell the twins apart. The police knew Julie was not a relation so was unlikely to be so upset.

But as mentioned, Julie could have refused to assist the police, Bamber & the relations.

[Jan]

Honestly I know others will dispute this but I don't think she did know and to clarify this is only a feeling , but I think the police possibly spoke to her earlier than we think and convinced her he did it and coached her how to embellish things that had happened in the past . I am not sure why exactly she was convinced but I do genuinely think a t the time of the funerals and the morgue visit she did not have a clue , but that does mean her statements are not true .

That does not implicate either way whether Jeremy is guilty or not , perhaps she went along with the police because she did think he was capable , I don't know .

But nothing that she said in her statements about his plans of poison or burning etc can be proved . It was her word against his . So quite clever really .

IMO

[Jan]

Not just the notes, the enlarged post mortem photographs too - you're hanging on by a very weak thread 

How can any of those officers say her hands were perfectly clean though . They obviously were not .

[Adam]

Honestly I know others will dispute this but I don't think she did know and to clarify this is only a feeling , but I think the police possibly spoke to her earlier than we think and convinced her he did it and coached her how to embellish things that had happened in the past . I am not sure why exactly she was convinced but I do genuinely think a t the time of the funerals and the morgue visit she did not have a clue , but that does mean her statements are not true .

That does not implicate either way whether Jeremy is guilty or not , perhaps she went along with the police because she did think he was capable , I don't know .

But nothing that she said in her statements about his plans of poison or burning etc can be proved . It was her word against his . So quite clever really .

IMO

When did the police speak to her earlier ? She was with Bamber virtually all the time in the 20 days after the massacre before she betrayed him.

She was also still with Bamber when she betrayed him.

[guest7363]

Could that not have been the case, and she simply added embellishment later on?

She said this later Hartley.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1043.0;attach=5430

[guest2181]

Honestly I know others will dispute this but I don't think she did know and to clarify this is only a feeling , but I think the police possibly spoke to her earlier than we think and convinced her he did it and coached her how to embellish things that had happened in the past . I am not sure why exactly she was convinced but I do genuinely think a t the time of the funerals and the morgue visit she did not have a clue , but that does mean her statements are not true .

That does not implicate either way whether Jeremy is guilty or not , perhaps she went along with the police because she did think he was capable , I don't know .

But nothing that she said in her statements about his plans of poison or burning etc can be proved . It was her word against his . So quite clever really .

IMO

Any way you look at it, she certainly doesn't come out of any of this looking good.

I do think some views given on the forum about her are too black and white.

[guest2181]

She said this later Hartley.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1043.0;attach=5430

Well that certainly provides an explanation.

[guest7363]

Well that certainly provides an explanation.

I can agree with certain things she said, I knew my son in law had committed something terrible my daughter didn't think one minute he'd done it, I didn't want to believe it and it puts you in a confused state in your head hoping your wrong.  I couldn't  talk or tell anyone about it for a year.

[guest7363]

I can agree with certain things she said, I knew my son in law had committed something terrible my daughter didn't think one minute he'd done it, I didn't want to believe it and it puts you in a confused state in your head hoping your wrong.  I couldn't  talk or tell anyone about it for a year.

I will just add to this as well, you think no one will believe you if you say anything, this would have put me in an even worse position.  Hope this helps for people who have never been there.

[Caroline]

How can any of those officers say her hands were perfectly clean though . They obviously were not .

Who said 'perfectly clean'?

[susan]

How can any of those officers say her hands were perfectly clean though . They obviously were not .

Jan have you read the report wherein it states this hahaha forgot the guys name