Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm

[Adam]

49. DC Hammersley, the Scenes of Crimes Officer placed plastic bags over Sheila Caffell's hands and feet before her body was removed from the farmhouse. He saw some blood staining to the back of the right hand, but apart from that the hands, to his eye were clean and the nails intact. The deceased's feet were also free from blood staining and from any debris such as sugar.


So it was just a smudge of blood on the back of Sheila's hand.

[guest7363]

How can Vanezis possibly know to what extent there was a struggle that morning?

Steve, did Colin visit Sheila in the mortuary, does he mention any other injuries to Sheila's hands?

[guest7363]

49. DC Hammersley, the Scenes of Crimes Officer placed plastic bags over Sheila Caffell's hands and feet before her body was removed from the farmhouse. He saw some blood staining to the back of the right hand, but apart from that the hands, to his eye were clean and the nails intact. The deceased's feet were also free from blood staining and from any debris such as sugar.


So it was just a smudge of blood on the back of Sheila's hand.

Thats another one who must have been in the industrial frame as well. 

[Lucy522]

Steve, did Colin visit Sheila in the mortuary, does he mention any other injuries to Sheila's hands?

Hi justice, no he didn't, only Julie saw them

[guest7363]

Hi justice, no he didn't, only Julie saw them

Ok thanks Lucy, I didn't know if he paid his respects before burial?

[Caroline]

49. DC Hammersley, the Scenes of Crimes Officer placed plastic bags over Sheila Caffell's hands and feet before her body was removed from the farmhouse. He saw some blood staining to the back of the right hand, but apart from that the hands, to his eye were clean and the nails intact. The deceased's feet were also free from blood staining and from any debris such as sugar.


So it was just a smudge of blood on the back of Sheila's hand.

Obviously he lied also 

[susan]

No one can examine any injuries - just photographs.

Sorry I should have said photographs.

[Steve_uk]

Steve, did Colin visit Sheila in the mortuary, does he mention any other injuries to Sheila's hands?

No I don't think so. There's no mention of it in the books. He was probably in too much shock to register anything.

[guest7363]

No I don't think so. There's no mention of it in the books. He was probably in too much shock to register anything.

Ok thanks Steve.

This is Hammersley's court statement, for those who think they did not have photos of the hands at trial, they even had enlargements.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5817.0;attach=37846

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5817.0;attach=37847

But I suppose innocent posters have  a much clearer picture than what was offered at trial?

[Adam]

Obviously Bill's suggestion that the back of Sheila's hand was scratched, has been dismissed.

Many posters believe the photo's show it was a smudge. Vanezis says there were no scratches on Sheila. And the COA & Hammersley say it was just a blood mark.

[Adam]

Onto Bill's suggestion he has seen pictures of 28 scratches on Sheila. Which must be under her undamaged nightdress.

Once Bill posts the pictures of course.

[Steve_uk]

Ok thanks Steve.

This is Hammersley's court statement, for those who think they did not have photos of the hands at trial, they even had enlargements.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5817.0;attach=37846

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5817.0;attach=37847

But I suppose innocent posters have  a much clearer picture than what was offered at trial?

So I'm assuming the jewellery was a ring, which was taken from her finger? When did this occur?

[guest7363]

So I'm assuming the jewellery was a ring, which was taken from her finger? When did this occur?

I can only think the finger/hand was photographed twice before being put into a bag, one with the ring on, the other with the ring off?  Or it was photographed again in the mortuary, it's within the same day anyway Steve.

[guest7363]

Obviously Bill's suggestion that the back of Sheila's hand was scratched, has been dismissed.

Many posters believe the photo's show it was a smudge. Vanezis says there were no scratches on Sheila. And the COA & Hammersley say it was just a blood mark.

Here is another one who says it's blood staining.  Professor Herbert Leon McDonnell

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=264.0;attach=20300;image

[David1819]

How can Vanezis possibly know to what extent there was a struggle that morning?

I've already explained this numerous times.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8533.0.html