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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #405 on: July 21, 2017, 08:49:AM »
It doesn't matter which photographic schedule anyone refers to, or seeks to rely upon, the photograph of the rifle (no. 23) was always taken before any photographs showing the said rifle in her possession - this proves PC Bird (SOCO) and DI 'Ron' Cook (SOCO) told a deliberate lie by claiming that PC Bird took it after photographing the same rifle in Sheila Caffells possession! This claim was false, photograph no. 23 was taken before Sheila's body was ever photographed, and it was taken before 10am, not afterwards!

Analysis based on different photographic schedules created by PC Bird, and the Stokenchurch/COLP enquiry!!
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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #406 on: July 21, 2017, 08:54:AM »
What we discover when we analyse the sequence with which photographs, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33, and so on, and so forth were taken, is that the anshuzt rifle was photographed leaning against the main bedroom window by cops, before they photographed it on Sheila Caffells body, this is by referring to the sequence with which the photographs were taken, either in 'THE MASTER COPY ALBUM', the COURT ALBUM', or THE STOKENCHURCH/COLP PHOTOGRAPH SCHEDULE' (as above)!!!
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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #407 on: July 21, 2017, 09:00:AM »
What we discover when we analyse the sequence with which photographs, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 and 33, and so on, and so forth were taken, is that the anshuzt rifle was photographed leaning against the main bedroom window by cops, before they photographed it on Sheila Caffells body, this is by referring to the sequence with which the photographs were taken, either in 'THE MASTER COPY ALBUM', the COURT ALBUM', or THE STOKENCHURCH/COLP PHOTOGRAPH SCHEDULE' (as above)!!!

The court which convicted Jeremy Bamber was seriously deceived by the claim that photograph no. 23 was taken after PC Bird had photographed Sheila's body in possession of the said rifle, but the fact is it was photographed at the main bedroom window and then moved eventually onto the body of Sheila on the bedroom floor, after cops moved her body there from on top of the bed during 'informatives'...

This constitutes a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, and these bad apple cops all need to be prosecuted, convicted, and given lengthy custodial sentences, as an example to try and deter other bad apple cops in other miscarriages of justice from going down the same road!
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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #408 on: July 21, 2017, 09:21:AM »
There is clear evidence now available to prove and establish beyond doubt that cops staged and faked Sheila's Caffells body and her death scene on the main bedroom floor, and that cops planted the anshuzt rifle on her body to present her death as a possible suicide! The fact that it was the main plank of the prosecutions case that Jeremy had been responsible for doing this so as to lead the cops a merry dance, can now be shown to be a massive fib! Jeremy Bamber did not shoot his sister, she did not shoot herself, cops did and because they dug themselves into a deep hole by relying on the matter going through the Coroner's Court system, where the coroner is only concerned with the cause of death, not with whether or not a person committed suicide, or was murdered, and the case then was to be taken through the Criminal Court System, cops found themselves at the point of no return, they had already committed themselves to deal with the matter in the other court system, they opted for going along by a reliance upon faked photographic evidence, hid the role played by the first SOCO team, and got PC Bird (SOCO) from the second team to take photographs of the bodies Insitu and claimed these photographs were taken of the crime scene undisturbed! They hid 358 photographs and a crime scene video taken by DC Oakey and DC Henderson, they even went to the point of trying to conceal the presence of these two SOCO at the scene! The fact that senior officers conducted 'informatives' in the main bedroom between 9am and 10 am, was also kept quiet! The body of Sheila Caffell was moved and disturbed from being a top the bed, onto the floor, etc, etc, etc...

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #409 on: July 21, 2017, 10:13:AM »
There is clear evidence now available to prove and establish beyond doubt that cops staged and faked Sheila's Caffells body and her death scene on the main bedroom floor, and that cops planted the anshuzt rifle on her body to present her death as a possible suicide! The fact that it was the main plank of the prosecutions case that Jeremy had been responsible for doing this so as to lead the cops a merry dance, can now be shown to be a massive fib! Jeremy Bamber did not shoot his sister, she did not shoot herself, cops did and because they dug themselves into a deep hole by relying on the matter going through the Coroner's Court system, where the coroner is only concerned with the cause of death, not with whether or not a person committed suicide, or was murdered, and the case then was to be taken through the Criminal Court System, cops found themselves at the point of no return, they had already committed themselves to deal with the matter in the other court system, they opted for going along by a reliance upon faked photographic evidence, hid the role played by the first SOCO team, and got PC Bird (SOCO) from the second team to take photographs of the bodies Insitu and claimed these photographs were taken of the crime scene undisturbed! They hid 358 photographs and a crime scene video taken by DC Oakey and DC Henderson, they even went to the point of trying to conceal the presence of these two SOCO at the scene! The fact that senior officers conducted 'informatives' in the main bedroom between 9am and 10 am, was also kept quiet! The body of Sheila Caffell was moved and disturbed from being a top the bed, onto the floor, etc, etc, etc...

Just check the photographic schedules created by PC Bird (SOCO), and Stokenchurch, (above)! In each case, photograph no. 23 which shows the anshuzt rifle resting next to the main bedroom window, was taken before any photographs in sequence which show the same rifle on Sheila Caffells body! Cops have clearly moved the rifle from the main bedroom window onto the body of Sheila, and cops staged her death scene, they presented her death to the Coroner as a suicide! This establishes Jeremy Bambers innocence beyond reasonable doubt!
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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #410 on: July 23, 2017, 01:07:PM »
Have you got a source that a rifle was seen in an upstairs dark room ?
Why would the room have been dark?

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #411 on: July 26, 2017, 07:16:PM »
Just check the photographic schedules created by PC Bird (SOCO), and Stokenchurch, (above)! In each case, photograph no. 23 which shows the anshuzt rifle resting next to the main bedroom window, was taken before any photographs in sequence which show the same rifle on Sheila Caffells body! Cops have clearly moved the rifle from the main bedroom window onto the body of Sheila, and cops staged her death scene, they presented her death to the Coroner as a suicide! This establishes Jeremy Bambers innocence beyond reasonable doubt!
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I can't believe they would not make sure the gun was safe first before taking the photos .

Which would reinforce the argument . Wonder where all those negatives are ?

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« Reply #412 on: July 30, 2017, 09:58:AM »
Just found this which I had not seen before and does indicate that the gun may have been moved before photos taken . Which is what you think would happen for the safety of officers

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Statement of WPC Jeapes (after 7:30am)

She says that she saw the rifle leaning up against the window frame of the tiny room between the master and the twins room which were connected by doors, this was between 7:30am and when she left the scene at 9am. How did this rifle move from the window to Sheila’s body if she had been killed by Jeremy Bamber before 3:30am as the prosecution stated. The same rifle was seen lying on her body by 8:30am and mysteriously at 10.20am the same gun was back in the window of the main bedroom where she was found. The police never made any reference to the gun in this small room, and there is not a single photograph of this room in the crime scene photographs which is very curious.

Statement of PC Brown (after 7am)

He also details what he believed to be a gun in the window of the small room off the master bedroom, supporting the evidence of WPC Jeapes. How could sightings by two firearms officers, who were located separately and both watching the house using the telescopic sight of a firearm be mistaken about seeing the gun in the window?

In his statement DI Cook said that the first time the rifle was moved from Sheila was 11:10am, the photographing started at 10:00am and finished at 10:50am. Statement of PC Hall (7:00am to 7:34am).

Hall states that PC Collins “reported that he could see the body of who he thought was a woman in the kitchen” before the firearms team broke into the house. PC Hall also states later when they broke into the house "I immediately heard a noise upstairs and began to challenge up the stairs I was covering, I was calling to Sheila Bamber to make her whereabouts known to me."

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #413 on: July 30, 2017, 10:01:AM »
Alosminnadams main statement he misses out completely that he was walked round the house and saw the bodies .

But it is in a later one .

And this is when Sheila was seen with the rifle and bible in a different position .

This was before 8.45

So if it was EP that moved the bible and the gun

Then surely that means blood staining on the bible resulting in those moves must indicate the blood was still wet?

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #414 on: July 30, 2017, 10:11:AM »
There is nothing that will shift my conviction that a murder scene in which the murderer has committed suicide, is going to be treated entirely differently from a murder scene in which the murderer is unknown. I think it was this and this alone -aided brilliantly by Jeremy- which was the cause of the shambles the investigation became.

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #415 on: July 30, 2017, 12:59:PM »
Alosminnadams main statement he misses out completely that he was walked round the house and saw the bodies .

But it is in a later one .

And this is when Sheila was seen with the rifle and bible in a different position .

This was before 8.45

So if it was EP that moved the bible and the gun

Then surely that means blood staining on the bible resulting in those moves must indicate the blood was still wet?

Or that Adams was completely mistaken
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #416 on: July 30, 2017, 03:51:PM »
Or that Adams was completely mistaken

And his colleague as well .

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #417 on: August 01, 2017, 05:45:AM »
The significant thing is, that thejury were deceived by the presentation of the crime scene photographs which showed Sheila in possession of the rifle, presented as Jeremys attempt to stage her suicide, when all along it was the cops who staged Sheila's death scene on the bedroom floor! How can this despicable act be deemed lawful and proper? Surely everyone can see that there has been a serious miscarriage of justice in this case! You simply can't have cops doing such blatent things and getting away with it, and somebody being on the receiving end of such blatent corruptioj! I have no doubt that one of the chief instagators behind this debackle was non other than DCS 'Mick' Ainsley who took control of the second part of the police investigation (SC/786/85) in September 1985! The fact that he was given a job as a 'Security Advisor'  at Osea Road Camp Site, by the relatives upon his retirement from Essex Police should also not go unnoticed!!
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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #418 on: August 04, 2017, 02:09:PM »
. . . the anshuzt rifle . . .
The rifle manufacturer's name should be spelt "Anschütz", not "anshuzt".

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #419 on: August 04, 2017, 02:24:PM »
The rifle manufacturer's name should be spelt "Anschütz", not "anshuzt".
Yes but who can be bothered with alt+129? Those poor foreigners..