The rifle in the window.

[Steve_uk]

Then of course if the object in the window is the rifle,then the bedroom would be the place,obviously,as that's where it was eventually found after its last " use ".

Sheila was right in her calculations/notes,that police would be there. This is what she must have envisaged before taking her own life.

I just wonder whether she was in a fit state to write anything. When and where did she write the note? What happened to the pen? Why were there no traces of blood in her room if she had killed everyone and written the note there?

[Jane]

I just wonder whether she was in a fit state to write anything. When and where did she write the note? What happened to the pen? Why were there no traces of blood in her room if she had killed everyone and written the note there?

I think you're correct, Steve. The so called suicide note looks to me like the sort of thing someone might write to give a reader the impression that it had been written by someone who was psychotic. Like the murders and the scene setting, it was over exaggerated.

[lookout]

I just wonder whether she was in a fit state to write anything. When and where did she write the note? What happened to the pen? Why were there no traces of blood in her room if she had killed everyone and written the note there?

Of course Sheila was capable of writing,though latterly her words would be jumbled as her mind had been.
Why Sheila has been made out to be this shy,timid,incapable ditsy person I don't know ?
Sheila was a prolific writer who preferred to communicate that way rather than speak her mind,or what she was thinking at the time. Drawing/painting her feelings was also something else that she did too as one of her drawings scared Colin when he first saw it because it depicted herself in the guise of Klimt's  " scream " which is how she'd felt.

The notes could have been written in her bedroom-------when her hands were clean,but she'd appeared to have known what to write at the time to coincide with what went on.
There was no blood in her bedroom because it was the only room which wasn't involved in the killing of anyone. 

[Caroline]

Of course Sheila was capable of writing,though latterly her words would be jumbled as her mind had been.
Why Sheila has been made out to be this shy,timid,incapable ditsy person I don't know ?
Sheila was a prolific writer who preferred to communicate that way rather than speak her mind,or what she was thinking at the time. Drawing/painting her feelings was also something else that she did too as one of her drawings scared Colin when he first saw it because it depicted herself in the guise of Klimt's  " scream " which is how she'd felt.

The notes could have been written in her bedroom-------when her hands were clean,but she'd appeared to have known what to write at the time to coincide with what went on.
There was no blood in her bedroom because it was the only room which wasn't involved in the killing of anyone.

Sorry Lookout, I wasn't aware you knew Sheila that well? 

[lookout]

Sorry Lookout, I wasn't aware you knew Sheila that well? 

Actually it was Colin !!

[Jane]

Of course Sheila was capable of writing,though latterly her words would be jumbled as her mind had been.
Why Sheila has been made out to be this shy,timid,incapable ditsy person I don't know ?
Sheila was a prolific writer who preferred to communicate that way rather than speak her mind,or what she was thinking at the time. Drawing/painting her feelings was also something else that she did too as one of her drawings scared Colin when he first saw it because it depicted herself in the guise of Klimt's  " scream " which is how she'd felt.

The notes could have been written in her bedroom-------when her hands were clean,but she'd appeared to have known what to write at the time to coincide with what went on.
There was no blood in her bedroom because it was the only room which wasn't involved in the killing of anyone.

Perhaps you could provide us with something of her "prolific" writing.

[Jan]

Back to the thread . If anyone has seen a statement by Montgomery about when the rifle was taken off the body then please let me know . Thanks

[lookout]

Perhaps you could provide us with something of her "prolific" writing.

Colin's book will tell you that. He says that Sheila found it easier to write down her feelings,etc rather than speak them.Other than that,ask the CT to provide you with the proof.

[Jane]

Colin's book will tell you that. He says that Sheila found it easier to write down her feelings,etc rather than speak them.Other than that,ask the CT to provide you with the proof.

That may be, but perhaps "prolific" is stretching it a little, especially since she and Colin hadn't lived together for numerous years so he'd have been unlikely to have known what was her daily routine.

[lookout]

Back to the thread . If anyone has seen a statement by Montgomery about when the rifle was taken off the body then please let me know . Thanks

Mike has written on the forum about this somewhere.

[Caroline]

Actually it was Colin !!

What? You knew Colin well? 

[Steve_uk]

I've moved this particular discussion to another thread so as not to fall foul of the regulations.

[Adam]

There was no suicide note. Written by either Bamber or Sheila.

Bamber didn't have time to write one after the massacre. He wouldn't risk writing one beforehand as he would have to replicate her handwriting.

He would have written a more obvious, shorter suicide note & put it next to the bible. He certainly wouldn't write one pages long & then leave it in another foom.

The OS has suggested a suicide note was in the bible Bamber left by Sheila. Although have since asked for money to pay experts go through the notes found in Sheila's bedroom. No feedback has been supplied by the OS on these notes.

[Adam]

As Lookout said Sheila's words were 'jumbled as her mind had been'. However she was certainly fully focused at 3am when shooting 5 people in the head.

Her notes are sadly just almost unreadable ramblings that only she could relate to. There is no suggestion of murder or suicide in them, otherwise this would have been annonced by the CT.

[Jan]

There was no suicide note. Written by either Bamber or Sheila.

Bamber didn't have time to write one after the massacre. He wouldn't risk writing one beforehand as he would have to replicate her handwriting.

He would have written a more obvious, shorter suicide note & put it next to the bible. He certainly wouldn't write one pages long & then leave it in another foom.

The OS has suggested a suicide note was in the bible Bamber left by Sheila. Although have since asked for money to pay experts go through the notes found in Sheila's bedroom. No feedback has been supplied by the OS on these notes.

suicide note and writing comments moved to another thread Adam

thank you