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Offline Jan

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« Reply #120 on: July 10, 2017, 06:04:PM »
I am still wondering if one of these pictures is the documentary because even thought the parcel item looks right June's feet were at the bottom of the bed and you can not see them in the picture or the blood spots on the carpet .

So perhaps we are not looking at two crime scene photos ?

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« Reply #121 on: July 10, 2017, 06:08:PM »

I have never really looked at the picture of June closely because obviously it is one of the most graphic but she was right in the doorway. Not just partly but right in it so not quite sure where she was when the picture of the rifle was taken . I am not going to post it here but it is in the archives .

The pictures we were shown were NEITHER June nor Sheila. They were clearly actors badly made up and bewigged. Had you seen those pictures anywhere but this forum, you'd have had no idea who they were.

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« Reply #122 on: July 10, 2017, 06:15:PM »
The pictures we were shown were NEITHER June nor Sheila. They were clearly actors badly made up and bewigged. Had you seen those pictures anywhere but this forum, you'd have had no idea who they were.
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? Sorry I am not understanding you ? Are you saying the picture I am looking at in the archives is not June in the doorway?

I think it is .

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« Reply #123 on: July 10, 2017, 06:16:PM »
Anyway both pics do seem to be genuine crime scene photos so still can not explain the differences at the moment

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« Reply #124 on: July 10, 2017, 06:19:PM »
Anyway both pics do seem to be genuine crime scene photos so still can not explain the differences at the moment

Jan if they are crime scene photos nothing should be moved. Otherwise what's the point. It's all very odd isn't it

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« Reply #125 on: July 10, 2017, 06:21:PM »
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? Sorry I am not understanding you ? Are you saying the picture I am looking at in the archives is not June in the doorway?

I think it is .

Sorry. The archive pic of June in the doorway is undoubtedly JUNE. The pictures we were shown were said to be those which police had kept secret.................it seems they forgot how the master bedroom was furnished and used actors of a similar age!!!!

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« Reply #126 on: July 10, 2017, 06:25:PM »
And yes it's surprising how small the room is and how little had been disturbed if Jeremy dragged Sheila in there.

So where would the objects on the chairs come from and what were they .?

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« Reply #127 on: July 10, 2017, 06:28:PM »
And yes it's surprising how small the room is and how little had been disturbed if Jeremy dragged Sheila in there.

So where would the objects on the chairs come from and what were they .?

Tomorrows laundry? Tomorrows laundry put on top of yesterdays washed laundry? Clothes taken off and not put away?

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« Reply #128 on: July 10, 2017, 06:39:PM »
Tomorrows laundry? Tomorrows laundry put on top of yesterdays washed laundry? Clothes taken off and not put away?

Yes but it is not in both pictures
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« Reply #129 on: July 10, 2017, 06:48:PM »
Yes but it is not in both pictures

That's coz it was tidied away ;D ;D  Jan, it feels like this is starting to get to you! Take a deep breath. Pour yourself a drink or go and make supper ;D
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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #130 on: July 10, 2017, 07:04:PM »
Full statement:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1387.0.html


I wonder how experienced she was. She retired in 2015 and says she served over 30 years.

Not really about experience though is it, she just said she thought she was what might be a rifle. The fact that they were expecting to find someone with a rifle would make anyone cautious and look out for rifle shaped objects.
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: The rifle in the window.
« Reply #131 on: July 10, 2017, 07:25:PM »
That's coz it was tidied away ;D ;D  Jan, it feels like this is starting to get to you! Take a deep breath. Pour yourself a drink or go and make supper ;D


Oh yes of course the police took some photos of the crime scene then decided they had enough time to do a bit of housekeeping before they took the next photos . And move a few objects . Of course that explains why they did not get the bodies until the morgue unti 3 pm . Obvious now

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« Reply #132 on: July 10, 2017, 07:31:PM »
    something white in front of it?
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Ok so Jane is claiming this is the original crime scene photo which means that the main bedroom had a chair piled with odd clothes and an unidentifiable object to the right . All of this and everything on the other side of the bed did not get knocked or moved when Jeremy dragged Sheila back into the bedroom at all.

Obviously the police thought after removing the gun from the body they would have a good tidy up of just one corner and get rid of some laundry and other items before taking more crime scene pictures. Good that answered that one then .

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« Reply #133 on: July 10, 2017, 07:32:PM »

Oh yes of course the police took some photos of the crime scene then decided they had enough time to do a bit of housekeeping before they took the next photos . And move a few objects . Of course that explains why they did not get the bodies until the morgue unti 3 pm . Obvious now

Jan, I have NO idea. The facts are these. Photo's were taken of chaos, post murders. THEN at some point, other photos were taken of a tidied room. PERHAPS they got cleaners in. PERHAPS they asked the housekeeper. PERHAPS they asked Ann Eaton. I DON'T KNOW!! What I DO know is that it didn't happen by magic.

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« Reply #134 on: July 10, 2017, 07:33:PM »
    something white in front of it?



Ok so Jane is claiming this is the original crime scene photo which means that the main bedroom had a chair piled with odd clothes and an unidentifiable object to the right . All of this and everything on the other side of the bed did not get knocked or moved when Jeremy dragged Sheila back into the bedroom at all.

Obviously the police thought after removing the gun from the body they would have a good tidy up of just one corner and get rid of some laundry and other items before taking more crime scene pictures. Good that answered that one then .

Can you come up with something you think is better?