"DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"

[lookout]

Susan,if the truth be known that silencer could have been left anywhere within the place and not " just found " in the back of the cupboard as if it had been purposely hidden. How damn convenient !

[susan]

Susan,if the truth be known that silencer could have been left anywhere within the place and not " just found " in the back of the cupboard as if it had been purposely hidden. How damn convenient !

Lookout hello
I remember Vic telling me the gun cupboard was a really deep cupboard so it seems whoever found the silencer must have nearly had to go on their knees to get it as it was an under the stair cupboard so no head room also surely was not appropriate for relatives searching a property that did not belong to them all very fishy to me.

[lookout]

Lookout hello
I remember Vic telling me the gun cupboard was a really deep cupboard so it seems whoever found the silencer must have nearly had to go on their knees to get it as it was an under the stair cupboard so no head room also surely was not appropriate for relatives searching a property that did not belong to them all very fishy to me.

Yes,seems like they knew where to look,eh ? As if anyone was going to hide it,or try to  You'd chuck it into the sea,surely ?

[Steve_uk]

Yes,seems like they knew where to look,eh ? As if anyone was going to hide it,or try to  You'd chuck it into the sea,surely ?

I'm not saying that the silencer evidence is not suspicious, but if he did throw it over the sea wall is there much of a tide?

[Jane]

I'm not saying that the silencer evidence is not suspicious, but if he did throw it over the sea wall is there much of a tide?

And someone would have said that a silencer was missing, I imagine.

[lookout]

I'm not saying that the silencer evidence is not suspicious, but if he did throw it over the sea wall is there much of a tide?

Probably not,but it might have sank in the mud. There'd have been other ways I'm sure.

[Jane]

I'm not saying that the silencer evidence is not suspicious, but if he did throw it over the sea wall is there much of a tide?

There's some wonderfully unctuous mud!!!

[susan]

Yes,seems like they knew where to look,eh ? As if anyone was going to hide it,or try to  You'd chuck it into the sea,surely ?

Lookout yes he would have thrown it into the sea it would not have been missed as nobody was looking for one  it was 4 murders and one suicide and it is my belief the farm had a few of things

[Jan]

Lookout yes he would have thrown it into the sea it would not have been missed as nobody was looking for one  it was 4 murders and one suicide and it is my belief the farm had a few of things

I think ather members would have noticed it as there was testimony about the sights and sound moderator being on the gun a short time before the murders. But would Jeremy have remembered that in amongst committing the murders and getting rid of every other shred of clothing with blood on it? Who knows ?

[Steve_uk]

I think ather members would have noticed it as there was testimony about the sights and sound moderator being on the gun a short time before the murders. But would Jeremy have remembered that in amongst committing the murders and getting rid of every other shred of clothing with blood on it? Who knows ?

He had a shooting contest with Anthony Pargeter at the end of July and surmised that he might raise the issue of the silencer with relatives and Police.

[Bill Robertson]

The fact that the police did indeed find a sound moderator on the 7th August was inadvertently confirmed by ACC Simpson, who told the Press that a sound moderator had been found at WHF on 7 August 1985.

ACC Peter Simpson spills the beans:

We know that the police seized a sound moderator on 7th August due to three separate reports and confirmation from Assistant Chief Constable Peter Simpson:

COLCHESTER EVENING GAZETTE
MONDAY, 16TH SEPTEMBER 1985

“And although the silencer was found shortly after Police broke into the house a few hours after the killings on August 7, it was not regarded as important until inquiries were re-opened last week.”

ESSEX CHRONICLE
TUESDAY, 17TH SEPTEMBER 1985

      “Mr Simpson hit out at national newspaper reports and added:
         “A silencer was found at the farmhouse on the day
         of the killings, but this does not have to mean
         anything that is suspicious.
         As for being blood –stained, I just don’t know. We
         are waiting to hear from ballistics experts.”

SPECIAL REPORT BY STEVE CLOW
FRIDAY, 20TH SEPTEMBER 1985

      “The Police statement said
         “At an early stage of the investigation a silencer
         was taken away from White House Farm for
         forensic examinations.”

Later denied completely by Essex Police, who insist the only silencer was found on 10 August.

[Jane]

ACC Peter Simpson spills the beans:

We know that the police seized a sound moderator on 7th August due to three separate reports and confirmation from Assistant Chief Constable Peter Simpson:

COLCHESTER EVENING GAZETTE
MONDAY, 16TH SEPTEMBER 1985

“And although the silencer was found shortly after Police broke into the house a few hours after the killings on August 7, it was not regarded as important until inquiries were re-opened last week.”

ESSEX CHRONICLE
TUESDAY, 17TH SEPTEMBER 1985

      “Mr Simpson hit out at national newspaper reports and added:
         “A silencer was found at the farmhouse on the day
         of the killings, but this does not have to mean
         anything that is suspicious.
         As for being blood –stained, I just don’t know. We
         are waiting to hear from ballistics experts.”

SPECIAL REPORT BY STEVE CLOW
FRIDAY, 20TH SEPTEMBER 1985

      “The Police statement said
         “At an early stage of the investigation a silencer
         was taken away from White House Farm for
         forensic examinations.”

Later denied completely by Essex Police, who insist the only silencer was found on 10 August.

All the above proves is that the right hand didn't know what the left hand was doing. Nothing new there, then, but a couple of questions arise. A) Was the journo's shorthand up to the mark? B) Were the police releasing information BEFORE they had the full facts C) Were they getting ALL their information from the same source or was it simply someone's opinion?

[Caroline]

ACC Peter Simpson spills the beans:

We know that the police seized a sound moderator on 7th August due to three separate reports and confirmation from Assistant Chief Constable Peter Simpson:

COLCHESTER EVENING GAZETTE
MONDAY, 16TH SEPTEMBER 1985

“And although the silencer was found shortly after Police broke into the house a few hours after the killings on August 7, it was not regarded as important until inquiries were re-opened last week.”

ESSEX CHRONICLE
TUESDAY, 17TH SEPTEMBER 1985

      “Mr Simpson hit out at national newspaper reports and added:
         “A silencer was found at the farmhouse on the day
         of the killings, but this does not have to mean
         anything that is suspicious.
         As for being blood –stained, I just don’t know. We
         are waiting to hear from ballistics experts.”

SPECIAL REPORT BY STEVE CLOW
FRIDAY, 20TH SEPTEMBER 1985

      “The Police statement said
         “At an early stage of the investigation a silencer
         was taken away from White House Farm for
         forensic examinations.”

Later denied completely by Essex Police, who insist the only silencer was found on 10 August.

Where is this from?

[Bill Robertson]

Where is this from?

Newspaper archives

[guest2181]

Newspaper archives

The Chronicle words that you typed don't appear to make sense. It would make more sense for Simpson to say a silencer was NOT found, when immediately following it up with 'this does not have to mean anything that is suspicious'.

Perhaps either you or the reporter mistyped?

It would be good to see the actual articles though, I've never been very keen on people typing out what something says, it's better just to actually show the something.