What Happened To The Soil Samples?

[guest7363]

Essex Police were convinced on the basis of all available evidence that Sheila had killed the
family and committed suicide. On the 7th September 1985 Elizabeth Rimmington telephoned
Witham Police Station to say that Julie Mugford was withholding vital evidence in the White
House Farm enquiry. This was at 4pm. This telephone call was documented as Telephone
Report Number One. The exact content of this telephone call from Ms Rimmington is still a
mystery as Essex Police continue to withhold this document from the Defence.

(Why withhold this? )


On 8th sept was the charge by Essex police on Julie which was later withdrawn

I would like to see the alleged interviews , 31 in all? Referred to in documents.

Sorry I was on about Susan Battersby, must have our wires crossed? I Posted about Susan Battersby saying Julie told her before going to police

[Adam]

Sorry I was on about Susan Battersby, must have our wires crossed? I Posted about Susan Battersby saying Julie told her before going to police

Julie told 5 people before going to the police. Threads created.

I said this a few minutes ago & two days ago when Susan claimed the police brainwashed Julie.

[Jan]

Like I said release the full interviews not just the statements and then I can give a proper opinion.

Perhaps Julie did change her mind during the period after the funeral , but the fact is she obviously lied in either her first statements or subsequent ones . Because they were a change of material facts not just opinion. So we know what she was capable of . Her motives are yet to be determined .

[guest7363]

I agree - cast of thousands!

I wonder if everyone interviewed agreed to doing two interviews just in case police wanted to change direction?  Then signed confidential papers to say that they only did one and the police could use whichever they wanted and charge whoever fits?

[Adam]

I wonder if everyone interviewed agreed to doing two interviews just in case police wanted to change direction?  Then signed confidential papers to say that they only did one and the police could use whichever they wanted and charge whoever fits?

Was that police protocol in 1985. Or are you jumping on the industrial frame bandwagon ?

[guest7363]

Was that police protocol in 1985. Or are you jumping on the industrial frame bandwagon ?

It seems that is what happened, everytime a point gets raised this is what the defence ends up being?  So either everyone is in on it and lying or it's a load of B@ll@ks?

[Adam]

It seems that is what happened, everytime a point gets raised this is what the defence ends up being?  So either everyone is in on it and lying or it's a load of B@ll@ks?

Seems what happened ?

If it was an industrial frame, it needs to worked out how this could be achieved. Both within 6 weeks & after the DPP submission.

The only suggestion so far is that Ainsley was brought in to hide evidence.

[guest7363]

Seems what happened ?

If it was an industrial frame, it needs to worked out how this could be achieved. Both within 6 weeks & after the DPP submission.

The only suggestion so far is that Ainsley was brought in to hide evidence.

Well you work it out then.

[Adam]

Well you work it out then.

I don't believe there was an industrial frame.

If supporters can give plausible accounts of how one was carried out, then guilters will have agree Bamber could be innocent.

[Jan]

Julie told 5 people before going to the police. Threads created.

I said this a few minutes ago & two days ago when Susan claimed the police brainwashed Julie.

What exactly did she say ? A hitman was involved ? This was false.

She thought Jeremy had done it? Perhaps she changed her mind? Does not make him guilty does it?

Something happened between her original statements and the second ones but what ?

Again I say why now should her interviews be kept under wraps if there is nothing to hide?

[guest7363]

Sorry I was on about Susan Battersby, must have our wires crossed? I Posted about Susan Battersby saying Julie told her before going to police

Susan's statement contained 12 pages each signed by her, why would she lie about Julie telling her about the hitman?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4575.0.html

Have a look at the top where it says WHO STATES

[Jan]

Susan's statement contained 12 pages each signed by her, why would she lie about Julie telling her about the hitman?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4575.0.html

I don't know , but the hitman never existed and I still wonder if she had spoken to the police before official interviews ? If I had all the answers I would not be on here would I?

[guest7363]

I don't know , but the hitman never existed and I still wonder if she had spoken to the police before official interviews ? If I had all the answers I would not be on here would I?

So it's just your thoughts then that something was concocted with the police and Susan? Good luck with finding your answers on here then.

[Jan]

So it's just your thoughts then that something was concocted with the police and Susan? Good luck with finding your answers on here then.

 No I meant to say ( sorry just getting back into everything) that if the police had had earlier unofficial chats with Julie earlier that we are unaware of then she might have said those things to her friends . Like I said if the confidential file on Julie was released we might have a few more answers .

And technically just because Julie might have changed her mind about Jeremy and said things to her friends it does not make him guilty. Her second staments completely contradict the first ones so take your pick .

[Adam]

No I meant to say ( sorry just getting back into everything) that if the police had had earlier unofficial chats with Julie earlier that we are unaware of then she might have said those things to her friends . Like I said if the confidential file on Julie was released we might have a few more answers .

And technically just because Julie might have changed her mind about Jeremy and said things to her friends it does not make him guilty. Her second staments completely contradict the first ones so take your pick .

So Julie had unofficial chats with the police. Who for some reason mentioned a hit man. Julie then went & spoke to 5 people, mentioning the hit man.