What Happened To The Soil Samples?

[Caroline]

Yes and Julie herself in her own statement explained why the bike was there . And I personally do not believe her statements . I think she was manipulated by the police to help build their non existent case. Imo of course 😊

Were Liz Rimmington and Malcolm Waters manipulated too? Why would they back up Julie?

[Jan]

Were Liz Rimmington and Malcolm Waters manipulated too? Why would they back up Julie?

Their evidence was no where near as incriminating but I would not make assumptions. Of course there are still questions otherwise we would not be here but we know from other high profile cases that the police could be very underhand in order to get a conviction.

[Caroline]

Their evidence was no where near as incriminating but I would not make assumptions. Of course there are still questions otherwise we would not be here but we know from other high profile cases that the police could be very underhand in order to get a conviction.

Julie told others before telling the police and those people advised to to come clean. They had no reason to lie and the police had no reason to drag them into it - just like the notion of a hitman. No reason.

[Jan]

Julie told others before telling the police and those people advised to to come clean. They had no reason to lie and the police had no reason to drag them into it - just like the notion of a hitman. No reason.

I think it's quite obvious why the hitman was bought into it . Because of the phone call.

Imagine in the many many interviews , " we are sure Jeremy had an accomplice , we know about a phone call, do you know anyone who might fit the bill? Etc etc .


And considering there were several in recorded meetings with Julie and the police how can we be 100% sure of all the dates of when conversations took place? For all we know there could have been more unofficial interviews when the police sent Julie back into the crowd to start asking questions and glean more info. Exactly why they never should have done what they did. But of course there is an easy solution release the file on Julie .

[guest7363]

I think it's quite obvious why the hitman was bought into it . Because of the phone call.

Imagine in the many many interviews , " we are sure Jeremy had an accomplice , we know about a phone call, do you know anyone who might fit the bill? Etc etc .


And considering there were several in recorded meetings with Julie and the police how can we be 100% sure of all the dates of when conversations took place? For all we know there could have been more unofficial interviews when the police sent Julie back into the crowd to start asking questions and glean more info. Exactly why they never should have done what they did. But of course there is an easy solution release the file on Julie .

Julie had already told Susan about the hitman theory before going to police

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4575.0;attach=33657

[Jan]

Julie had already told Susan about the hitman theory before going to police

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4575.0;attach=33657

Allegedly.

Like I said I would love to see all the dates and all the transcripts of her many interviews.

[guest7363]

Allegedly.

Like I said I would love to see all the dates and all the transcripts of her many interviews.

10th of September

[Caroline]

Julie had already told Susan about the hitman theory before going to police

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4575.0;attach=33657

And Liz Rimmington and Malcolm Waters or perhaps these two lied too?

[Jan]

10th of September

All on one day?

I was not talking about the official interview.

[guest7363]

And Liz Rimmington and Malcolm Waters or perhaps these two lied too?

It seems they are all in on it with the pathologist in a box marked Just in case?

[Caroline]

I think it's quite obvious why the hitman was bought into it . Because of the phone call.

Imagine in the many many interviews , " we are sure Jeremy had an accomplice , we know about a phone call, do you know anyone who might fit the bill? Etc etc .


And considering there were several in recorded meetings with Julie and the police how can we be 100% sure of all the dates of when conversations took place? For all we know there could have been more unofficial interviews when the police sent Julie back into the crowd to start asking questions and glean more info. Exactly why they never should have done what they did. But of course there is an easy solution release the file on Julie .

Sorry but in order to make Jeremy innocent, this just jets more and more complicated. 

[Caroline]

It seems they are all in on it with the pathologist in a box marked Just in case?

I agree - cast of thousands!

[guest7363]

All on one day?

I was not talking about the official interview.

Sorry which one do you mean?

[Adam]

Julie betrayed Bamber 5 times while still with him. By telling 5 people.  The first time after only 20 days.

There is a recent thread on this.

[Jan]

10th of September

Essex Police were convinced on the basis of all available evidence that Sheila had killed the
family and committed suicide. On the 7th September 1985 Elizabeth Rimmington telephoned
Witham Police Station to say that Julie Mugford was withholding vital evidence in the White
House Farm enquiry. This was at 4pm. This telephone call was documented as Telephone
Report Number One. The exact content of this telephone call from Ms Rimmington is still a
mystery as Essex Police continue to withhold this document from the Defence.

(Why withhold this? )


On 8th sept was the charge by Essex police on Julie which was later withdrawn

I would like to see the alleged interviews , 31 in all? Referred to in documents.