What Happened To The Soil Samples?

[Caroline]

I think it's unfair to make out I was doing any such thing. I still think that ethically a murderer has the right of privacy from those medical staff who treat them the same as any other person. Imo it's about a decent society which treats all human beings equally and if I have a right to medical privacy, so should everyone else.  Just because some do not behave in a civilised way doesn't mean that we should stoop to their level.

I see what you're saying Maggie but thinking about how many inmates have had their psychology discussed in the press and on TV and no one makes comment. Levi Bellfield, Hindley and Bradey  Peter Sutcliffe etc. have all had their psychological assessments made public - I guess because it is in the public interest to know how dangerous these people are.

[Caroline]

A " passing through " psychiatrist can't evaluate any condition unless a person is in their particular care and has read medical records/prison records,etc. In other words,unless the psychiatrist that knows justice saw JB in a professional capacity,the definite answer to what he/she thinks isn't one which has required a full examination. This procedure is for forensic/criminal psychiatrists.

They can certainly form an opinion, one which is more informed than most on here.

[lookout]

Has there ever been such reports after assessment of JB ?

[Caroline]

Has there ever been such reports after assessment of JB ?

The assessments he gets are nothing to to with whether he's a psychopath or not.

[guest7363]

Has there ever been such reports after assessment of JB ?

I think she was based at Full Sutton and her partner was as well, he wasn't a psychiatrist or a prison guard though Lookout.

[lookout]

The assessments he gets are nothing to to with whether he's a psychopath or not.

I didn't mention psychopathy,as they don't have to be psychopaths. I'm talking about assessments and evaluations given by forensic/criminal psychologists.

[lookout]

I think she was based at Full Sutton and her partner was as well, he wasn't a psychiatrist or a prison guard though Lookout.

Did she personally evaluate JB,justice ?

[Jane]

I think it's unfair to make out I was doing any such thing. I still think that ethically a murderer has the right of privacy from those medical staff who treat them the same as any other person. Imo it's about a decent society which treats all human beings equally and if I have a right to medical privacy, so should everyone else.  Just because some do not behave in a civilised way doesn't mean that we should stoop to their level.

Maggie, I wasn't aiming my post at you, personally, any more than you were aiming your post at me, personally. We were just, as far as I'm concerned, airing our thoughts which just happen to be different. I'm not certain that anyone convicted of anything is entitled to the same rights as the rest of us.  I can't help but feel that it MAY be our willingness to be tolerant which has left us at the mercy of terrorists who see it as weakness.

[Caroline]

I didn't mention psychopathy,as they don't have to be psychopaths. I'm talking about assessments and evaluations given by forensic/criminal psychologists.

Then you need to explain what you mean by 'such reports'?

[guest7363]

I know for a fact he's telling the truth so nothing like the Z informant.

In truth Caroline, I wasn't searching for it, it came to me.  Seems strange that now posters have changed their mind about Bamber she has become so unprofessional.

[Jane]

Has there ever been such reports after assessment of JB ?

Why must there be a report on someone's opinion? I understand that NONE of Jeremy's medical/psych records have been released.

[lookout]

Why must there be a report on someone's opinion? I understand that NONE of Jeremy's medical/psych records have been released.

It's just been pointed out that  those killers/lifers behind bars are noted to be dangerous to the public ? Where's JB's name  ?

[Caroline]

In truth Caroline, I wasn't searching for it, it came to me.  Seems strange that now posters have changed their mind about Bamber she has become so unprofessional.

I guess even psychiatrists are entitled to a personal opinion about someone.

[guest7363]

Did she personally evaluate JB,justice ?

Like I said Lookout, she never delved into his mind, if he was a psychopath or what he gets up to, she is very professional and very highly regarded Lookout, as I've said before she has worked with a lot of high profile criminals, but my meeting with them was limited to my daughter's wedding, she only passed info onto me because she was told of my interest in Bamber and possibly the area I worked.  I will never see them again to ask anymore questions I'm afraid, I would like to see her but my questions wouldn't be about Bamber it would be about someone else.

[maggie]

Maggie, I wasn't aiming my post at you, personally, any more than you were aiming your post at me, personally. We were just, as far as I'm concerned, airing our thoughts which just happen to be different. I'm not certain that anyone convicted of anything is entitled to the same rights as the rest of us.  I can't help but feel that it MAY be our willingness to be tolerant which has left us at the mercy of terrorists who see it as weakness.

No probs Jane. We will have to agree to differ.