Homicide and suicide associated with haloperidol and akathisia.

[David1819]

From the American journal of psychiatry. (Ironically 1985)

[Caroline]

Post as many of these as you like - no evidence Sheila had akathisia or that she had such a reaction to haloperidol. She had been on it six months by the time of the murders and showed no such violent reactions - in fact, quite the opposite!

[Jane]

I see there's only one reference listed. So not much by way of back up.

[Adam]

David I admire you're tenancity. But you're 'forensic evidence breakthrough' was hand delivered to Bamber's legal team over a year ago. It's been binned.

You don't believe Sheila had a shower, so there should have been over 20 pieces of forensic evidence on her showing she had fired 26 bullets, reloaded twice & fought a man twice as big as her. There were none.

You need to join TomG, Sherlock & Susan,  rather than flogging a dead horse.

[Adam]

Criminal cases just need one piece of forensic evidence linking a suspect to the crime.

Barry George had a speak of gun powder in his pocket, which was enough to get a conviction & appeals rejected. The unlikely contamination claim eventually worked but George was refused compensation.

Some convictions have no forensic evidence linking a suspect to a crime. Such as Tracie Andrews & Michael Stone. But still convictions are made and upheld.

The Bamber case has over 50 pieces of incriminating forensic evidence. Not sure what else people need.

[notsure]

Criminal cases just need one piece of forensic evidence linking a suspect to the crime.

Barry George had a speak of gun powder in his pocket, which was enough to get a conviction & appeals rejected. The unlikely contamination claim eventually worked but George was refused compensation.

Some convictions have no forensic evidence linking a suspect to a crime. Such as Tracie Andrews & Michael Stone. But still convictions are made and upheld.

The Bamber case has over 50 pieces of incriminating forensic evidence. Not sure what else people need.

There was plenty of forensic evidence against tracie Andrews.

[Jane]

There was plenty of forensic evidence against tracie Andrews.

Which is hardly surprising as she was known to be in the car with him when the incident occurred.

[David1819]

David I admire you're tenancity. But you're 'forensic evidence breakthrough' was hand delivered to Bamber's legal team over a year ago. It's been binned.

You don't believe Sheila had a shower, so there should have been over 20 pieces of forensic evidence on her showing she had fired 26 bullets, reloaded twice & fought a man twice as big as her. There were none.

You need to join TomG, Sherlock & Susan,  rather than flogging a dead horse.

  

"Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues."

[Adam]

There was plenty of forensic evidence against tracie Andrews.

What forensic evidence ?

The knife was never found. Neither was the road rage killer which nailed her.

[Adam]

"Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues."

David you don't believe Sheila had a shower.

Why are you accusing her of firing 26 bullets, reloading twice and fighting a man twice as big as her, if over 20 pieces of forensic evidence due on her, were not there ?

[David1819]

Post as many of these as you like -

Ok

[lookout]

David you don't believe Sheila had a shower.

Why are you accusing her of firing 26 bullets, reloading twice and fighting a man twice as big as her, if over 20 pieces of forensic evidence due on her, were not there ?

You forgot to mention Julie seeing the children which makes JB innocent 

[David1819]

David you don't believe Sheila had a shower.

Why are you accusing her of firing 26 bullets, reloading twice and fighting a man twice as big as her, if over 20 pieces of forensic evidence due on her, were not there ?

Sheila does not need to have a shower to wash off your 20 pieces of insincere and untruthful junk.

[Adam]

You forgot to mention Julie seeing the children which makes JB innocent 

Yes, that's JackieD's view as she believes she would not have identified the twins if in Julie's position.

[Adam]

Sheila does not need to have a shower to wash off your 20 pieces of insincere and untruthful junk.

David it's from the 2002 court of appeal. Sheila could not have fired a rifle 26 times, reloaded twice and fought a man twice as big as her and have -

Perfectly clean hands.  

One blood mark on back of hand. 

Extremley low levels of lead found on hands.  Not consistent with handling a rifle. Significantly higher traces expected. 

Well manicured finger nails. 

No broken finger nails. 

All hand nails in tact. 

No marks or indentations on fingers. 

No blood on finger tips. 

No dirt on finger tips. 

No powder on finger tips. 

No trace of any lead dust coating on fingers. 

No traces of the lubricant from re loading twice. 

Perfectly clean feet. 

Feet free from blood staining. 

No debris such as sugar. 

No mention of foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight. 

No mention of damage to toe nails.

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on nightdress

No presence of firearm residue on nightdress.

No trace of rifle oil on nightdress.

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight.