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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2017, 11:38:AM »
Actually you have a very good point Adam, explosive powder used to get into the pores and give very series headaches esp if you rubbed the forehead, it also gave an itchy red rash, the headache was like a migraine.





There wouldn't have been much powder as it would have immediately dissipated in the atmosphere or stuck to the resin/oil which would have been present on the rifle.

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2017, 11:50:AM »




There wouldn't have been much powder as it would have immediately dissipated in the atmosphere or stuck to the resin/oil which would have been present on the rifle.

Lookout it was impossible for Sheila to fire 26 bullets and re load twice, then not show any of the listed 20 pieces of forensic evidence showing she had done this.
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2017, 12:42:PM »
47. The firearms officers who were the first to see her body noted that her feet she had blood on her feet and on the top part of her right hand.. and hands were "perfectly clean". Her fingernails were well manicured and not broken she had a broken toe nail.. and there were no marks or indentations on any of her fingers. there was a small cut on her hand caused by repetitive use of the trigger caused by the trigger guard...All her fingertips were clean and free from any blood, not true she had blood on her hand and blackening believed to be firearm residue but not tested for!dirt or powder inaccurate, she certainly had residue on the fingers of her right hand,
but this was never tested for because her right hand had been photographed resting on the gun and it would have been a pointless exercise!
and there appeared to be no trace of any lead dust or coating which is usual when handling .22 ammunition. not necessarily true...

48. The act of loading the magazine of an automatic weapon (carried out at least twice in this case) would be expected to leave visible traces of the lubricant and the materials from the bullets on the hands.not necessarily true...

49. DC Hammersley, the Scenes of Crimes Officer placed plastic bags over Sheila Caffell's hands and feet before her body was removed from the farmhouse. He saw some blood staining to the back of the right hand, but apart from that the hands, to his eye were clean and the nails intact. the aforementioned plastic hand bags were never tested, either for firearm residue, or lead deposit! The deceased's feet were also free from blood staining This was not true! and from any debris such as sugar. no sugar was found on the soles of Neville Bambers feet, so this suggests that any sugar that got spilled may have been made much later, possibly by Harris, Gibbons and Montgomery who found themselves trapped in the kitchen after discovering Sheila's body AWOL after 8.10am...

50. Following removal of the bags at the mortuary, Sheila Caffell's hands and forehead were swabbed. Extremely low traces of lead were detected when the swabs were examined. myself being the victim of several miscarriages of justice, I have the following to say in the defence of Jeremy Bamber (wrongly convicted as a murderer), her hands were not tested for the presence of firearms residue! If anybody knows different to what I am saying, speak up now, provide me with chapter and verse, and be prepated for me to take you to task! Such levels being consistent with the levels found from the handling of every day things around the house. These results were compared to hand swabs taken from volunteers at the laboratory hold on a minute, don't for one moment think you are deali g with a fukking mug, when your trying to preach things to me which are absolutelty untrue!  Lease don't be put off by my swearing, it's nothing personal to you, it's one of my weaknesses! I am supposed to be a low life no good scum bag! The truth s that I am not a no good low life scum bag, I am a victim of the measures which all corrupt coppers, and the CPS fall fowl too...

These corrupt individuals think they know best, lying g and fabricating evidence to suit the mindset of a police prosecution in one matter or another, is what these vile do called members of the human race aspire to!
They are in true essence the real scum of he earth!!
who were required to load the magazine with eighteen rounds of ammunition. Please don't even try to go there, you are lowering yourself to their level, you are buying into a system of absolute corruption! a system which exposes these criminals in uinform, they think they can hoodwink ordinary members of the public into thinking that cops like these have all the answers! They take the easy way out, they invent the evidence and try to present it the best way they can! Liars and criminals every last one of them vile evil scumbags who wouldn-nt have a clue how Walkers crisps get sealed into a bag! Significantly higher traces of lead were found than those recorded on the hands of Mrs Caffell. Hey, this is mike Teskowski your trying to to convince - why didn5 these mother fukker scientists test for firearms residue? Stop trying to pull the wool over people's eyes, I personally would not like soneone like you on a jury trying any false case brought against me! Open your fukking eyes!!!!!!The scientist Mr Elliott gave evidence that if Sheila Caffell had loaded eighteen cartridges into a magazine please gather your thoughts...he would have expected the hand swabs to have revealed appreciably higher deposits of lead. Unfortunately,  what you believe is not true,
please make your enquiries of the manufacturer of these Eley .22 subsonic Hollow point ammunitions! Stop being a patsy fir these prosecutions experts! Malcom Fletcher was basically, to put it in layman's terms ' a eanker'...


51. Mrs Caffell's nightdress was bloodstained. When tested the blood was consistent with being her own blood. You, have now resorted into believing the fabulous lies that the prosecution and its witnesses have fed you! Don't you have a brain of your own, that is capable of making decisions of your own?The garment was also examined for the presence of any firearm discharge residues   No, it wasn't, stop pretending that you know all the facts, there was never 'any fukking tests' involving the presence of firearms residue, only nonsensical lead deposit tests! or oil from the rifle.
Stop lying, you are making yourself look like a fool!
No such traces were found. None were looked for, or tested for, please save yourself from any further embarrassment! Look, if you want to try to prove wrong, please provide your invisible evidence to support the false contentions which you seek to rely upon!The scientist gave evidence that there would be a strong chance of finding such residues N, they did not, please reactivate what you are trying to say, you are getting confused regarding the kead deposit tests, with firearm residue tests that were never done!or markings on the clothing of Sheila Caffell. Please, don't you feel ashamed about what your suggesting in your posts? c'mon,
what your saying simply was not, and is not true...

Your 'brainwashed by the police, their expert witnesses, and the prosecutions case - this is a prime example of why miscarriages of justice occur, and happen! If you were unable forest, and the prosecution argued there was no trees, you come across to me as the sort of person who would not be able to see the wood for the trees,  and you'd believe everything these legal baffoons told you! 


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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2017, 01:33:PM »
Lookout it was impossible for Sheila to fire 26 bullets and re load twice, then not show any of the listed 20 pieces of forensic evidence showing she had done this.





There are THOUSANDS of files/documents withheld proving that Sheila DID murder her family.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2017, 01:43:PM »
[Feet

Perfectly clean.

Free from blood staining.

No debris such as sugar.

No mention of foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight.


This is your idea of a perfectly clean foot?  ???

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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2017, 02:09:PM »
This is your idea of a perfectly clean foot?  ???

David posting a picture of someone else's foot the CT published is not going to change the situation.

While still alive Sheila could not have fired 24 shots & re loaded twice, then removed 20 pieces of evidence showing she had done this. There is also no reason why she would want to.

After killing herself with two bullets, it would again be impossible to do this.

Either Bamber shot her, or Mike's & Sherlock's suggestions it was RB, AE, a hit man, random stranger, SAS esq hit man team shot her.
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2017, 02:10:PM »
This is your idea of a perfectly clean foot?  ???

David just looked at the picture you have just posted of Sheila's foot how can anyone say that foot is clean it is badly stained with blood.

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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2017, 02:15:PM »
David just looked at the picture you have just posted of Sheila's foot how can anyone say that foot is clean it is badly stained with blood.

Susan while still alive Sheila could not have fired 24 shots & re loaded twice, then removed 20 pieces of evidence on her face & body showing she had done this. There is also no reason why she would want to.

After killing herself with two bullets, it would again be impossible to remove evidence off herself. 

Either Bamber shot her, or Mike's & Sherlock's suggestions it was RB, AE, a hit man, random stranger, or SAS style hit man team shot her.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2017, 02:16:PM »
David posting a picture of someone else's foot the CT published is not going to change the situation.

While still alive Sheila could not have fired 24 shots & re loaded twice, then removed 20 pieces of evidence showing she had done this. There is also no reason why she would want to.

After killing herself with two bullets, it would again be impossible to do this.

Either Bamber shot her, or Mike's & Sherlock's suggestions it was RB, AE, a hit man, random stranger, SAS esq hit man team shot her.

Adam why did EP remove black canvas slippers/shoes from Sheila's bedroom and say to AE "your did not see this" rather sinister to me what were they hiding maybe they were blood stained.

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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2017, 02:19:PM »
Susa, while still alive Sheila could not have fired 24 shots & re loaded twice, then removed 20 pieces of evidence on her face , body & nightdress showing she had done this. There is also no reason why she would want to.

After killing herself with two bullets, it would again be impossible to remove evidence off her.

Either Bamber shot her, or Mike's & Sherlock's suggestions it was RB, AE, a hit man, random stranger, or SAS style hit man team shot her.

Adam you are aware I am of the opinion Sheila changed her clothes and had a shower after killing her family this is why her nightdress is lacking in gun shot residue and blood.

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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2017, 02:22:PM »
Adam you are aware I am of the opinion Sheila changed her clothes and had a shower after killing her family this is why her nightdress is lacking in gun shot residue and blood.

A shower would not remove evidence off her. I posted this on page 1.

Sheila could not change and shower after she had killed herself.

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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2017, 02:26:PM »
A shower would not remove evidence off her. I posted this on page 1.

Sheila could not change and shower after she had killed herself.






We know that Sheila could not have washed and changed after she'd killed herself  ::)
This is why she did it before she died-----in readiness to meet her Maker.

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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2017, 02:29:PM »





We know that Sheila could not have washed and changed after she'd killed herself  ::)
This is why she did it before she died-----in readiness to meet her Maker.


A shower would not remove evidence off her. I posted this on page 1. 

Sheila could not change and shower after she had killed herself. 
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2017, 02:37:PM »
FGS !

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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2017, 02:42:PM »
FGS !

Lookout you can support Bamber on the basis of an unfair trial, or that a third party committed the massacre.

The forensic evidence means no one can say Sheila committed the massacre.
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