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47. The firearms officers who were the first to see her body noted that her feet and hands were "perfectly clean". Her fingernails were well manicured and not broken and there were no marks or indentations on any of her fingers. All her fingertips were clean and free from any blood, dirt or powder and there appeared to be no trace of any lead dust or coating which is usual when handling .22 ammunition.

48. The act of loading the magazine of an automatic weapon (carried out at least twice in this case) would be expected to leave visible traces of the lubricant and the materials from the bullets on the hands.

49. DC Hammersley, the Scenes of Crimes Officer placed plastic bags over Sheila Caffell's hands and feet before her body was removed from the farmhouse. He saw some blood staining to the back of the right hand, but apart from that the hands, to his eye were clean and the nails intact. The deceased's feet were also free from blood staining and from any debris such as sugar.

50. Following removal of the bags at the mortuary, Sheila Caffell's hands and forehead were swabbed. Extremely low traces of lead were detected when the swabs were examined. Such levels being consistent with the levels found from the handling of every day things around the house. These results were compared to hand swabs taken from volunteers at the laboratory who were required to load the magazine with eighteen rounds of ammunition. Significantly higher traces of lead were found than those recorded on the hands of Mrs Caffell. The scientist Mr Elliott gave evidence that if Sheila Caffell had loaded eighteen cartridges into a magazine he would have expected the hand swabs to have revealed appreciably higher deposits of lead.

51. Mrs Caffell's nightdress was bloodstained. When tested the blood was consistent with being her own blood. The garment was also examined for the presence of any firearm discharge residues or oil from the rifle. No such traces were found. The scientist gave evidence that there would be a strong chance of finding such residues or markings on the clothing of Sheila Caffell.

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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2017, 10:54:PM »
Main points:

Both hands and feet were covered with plastic bags at the crime scene.

Hands

Perfectly clean.

One blood mark on back of hand.

Extremley low levels of lead found on hands.  Not consistent with handling a rifle. Significantly higher traces expected.


Finger nails

Well manicured.

Not broken.

Nails in tact.


Fingers

No marks or indentations.

No blood on finger tips.

No dirt on finger tips.

No powder on finger tips.

No trace of any lead dust coating.

No traces of the lubricant from handling a lot of bullets.


Feet

Perfectly clean.

Free from blood staining.

No debris such as sugar.

No mention of foot injuries after bare footed aggressive movement around big house & brutal fight.


Nightdress

Only Sheila Caffell's blood on it.

No presence of firearm residue.

No trace of rifle oil.

No mention of nightdress damage from agressive movement and brutal kitchen fight.
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2017, 11:05:PM »
Everyone will agree that this evidence shows Sheila did not commit the massacre.

There is no chance she had the time to have a very agressive complete body clean with specified cleaning agents,  after killing four people. Then changed into a nightie.  Just soap & water would not have put Sheila in her found condition.

There is no evidence Sheila had a shower or changed clothes. And no evidence the required speified cleaning agents were available inside WHF which Sheila knew about. 

There is no reason why Sheila would want to try to hide she was the killer. A shower would not rectify broken figer nails or damaged feet.
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2017, 11:25:PM »
After killing 4 people & against all odds removing all evidence she was the killer, Sheila would need someone else to kill her.

She could not shower and change to put herself in the found condition after she had killed herself.
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2017, 11:34:PM »

Nightdress

No presence of firearm residue.


Experiments were carried out by Dr Lloyed that showed no firearm residue on the nightdress would be present.

The appeal Judges didn't want to hear this. So they sent him home.


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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2017, 11:43:PM »
David it's the end - 

"After that, take a shower and rub every inch of your body thoroughly. As much as possible. Avoid using mild soaps and shower gels because it cannot help you in removing the gunshot residue on your body. Put some lotion on. Wash your hair thoroughly because it can even get into your hair and even if it gets red and itchy, scrub it as hard as you can.
There are times when these lead particles seep into your pores that is why you should make sure that you immediately take a bath right after you pulled the trigger".
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2017, 11:54:PM »
I don't see how anyone can still support Bamber.

The evidence shows Sheila did not fire any rifle once & certainly not 26 times.

The evidence also shows Sheila could not hide evidence she had fired a rifle either while still alive, or after she had died. 
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2017, 11:56:PM »
I don't see how anyone can still support Bamber.

The evidence shows Sheila did not fire a once or 26 times.

The evidence also shows Sheila could not hide evidence she had fired a rifle both before & after she had killed herself.
Yes she would most likely have broken a nail, if nothing else.

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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2017, 12:16:AM »
Yes she would most likely have broken a nail, if nothing else.

There are 20 pieces of evidence which show that Sheila did not fire a rifle.

It was impossible for Sheila to remove proof she fired a rifle by having a standard shower. There is no evidence Sheila had a shower after killing 4 people.

It was impossible for Sheila to remove proof she had fired a rifle after she had killed herself.

The only explanation is Sheila was shot twice by someone else who also shot the other 4 people.
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2017, 06:47:AM »
David it's the end - 


The stuff you are posting is BS written back in 2002. It is now 2017.

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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2017, 09:18:AM »
The stuff you are posting is BS written back in 2002. It is now 2017.

David it's from the 522 point published 'Court of Appeal' report. 

Twenty points of undisputed forensic evidence show Sheila did not fire a rifle that night.

It was impossible for Sheila to hide evidence she had fired a rifle. Both while alive & then after killing herself.

Refusing to accept Bamber is guilty because his appeal was in 2002 is pathetic.
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2017, 11:06:AM »
 How about visiting the COLP enquiry where JB had complained to the IPCC of allegations of police misconduct during investigations of the murders.
There are 167 paragraphs of damning reports including editing of statements from various groups.

This should have been the beginning,never mind about the end.

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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2017, 11:15:AM »
How about visiting the COLP enquiry where JB had complained to the IPCC of allegations of police misconduct during investigations of the murders.
There are 167 paragraphs of damning reports including editing of statements from various groups.

This should have been the beginning,never mind about the end.

Lookout it was impossible for Sheila to fire 26 shots & re load twice, then not show any of the above 20 pieces of forensic proof she had done this.

She could only have been shot by someone else.
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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2017, 11:16:AM »
David it's the end - 

"After that, take a shower and rub every inch of your body thoroughly. As much as possible. Avoid using mild soaps and shower gels because it cannot help you in removing the gunshot residue on your body. Put some lotion on. Wash your hair thoroughly because it can even get into your hair and even if it gets red and itchy, scrub it as hard as you can.
There are times when these lead particles seep into your pores that is why you should make sure that you immediately take a bath right after you pulled the trigger".
Actually you have a very good point Adam, explosive powder used to get into the pores and give very series headaches esp if you rubbed the forehead, it also gave an itchy red rash, the headache was like a migraine.

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Re: Summary of points 47-51 of 2002 appeal. Is this the end ?
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2017, 11:35:AM »
Lookout it was impossible for Sheila to fire 26 shots & re load twice, then not show any of the above 20 pieces of forensic proof she had done this.

She could only have been shot by someone else.




Nothing was impossible. It was a " domestic situation " brought on by years of having been controlled by a religious psychotic. Sheila had stood enough as she could stand and this had been her opportunity to commit murder.
Once JB had left for home that night,things would have got very heated and Sheila had known that if she was going to carry out the crime it would have to be before the workers began arriving early. I reckon that initially she knew what she was going to do and the more she thought about her life and miserable situation,the bigger the frenzy in which she was embroiled in.

It might be impossible for you to believe,but it certainly isn't for me.
 The truth of the matter is that it's mainly men who carry out this type of murder as we read about at least two every week,though it's not rare for women to carry out murders in this way where knives/guns are readily available-------which they weren't at Sheila's flat.

It was a poor investigation from the start and although treated as a murder/suicide,it was still a murder and should have been treated as such------but it wasn't !