Kitchen telephone

[lookout]

Someone at WHF was alive when JB was attempting to ring back after his father had called him. JB was witnessing an engaged tone at the time. Isn't that proof enough that he was at his own home and not committing murder?

[Jane]

Someone at WHF was alive when JB was attempting to ring back after his father had called him. JB was witnessing an engaged tone at the time. Isn't that proof enough that he was at his own home and not committing murder?

That's what you say. The telephone engineer, responsible for the area at the time, says otherwise. I don't believe it's ever been disputed that Jeremy was in his own home when he allegedly received a call from Nevill . He made a point of saying he was in his own home when he asked the police for a lift FROM HIS OWN HOME.

[guest2181]

That's what you say. The telephone engineer, responsible for the area at the time, says otherwise. I don't believe it's ever been disputed that Jeremy was in his own home when he allegedly received a call from Nevill . He made a point of saying he was in his own home when he asked the police for a lift FROM HIS OWN HOME.

I suspect he called his house from WHF, which was answered by the answering machine, thinking that the existence of this call could be checked by the police and add further weight to his story.

The delay in calling the police could well be because he had to make the journey back to Goldhanger before he could make the call.

[lookout]

That's what you say. The telephone engineer, responsible for the area at the time, says otherwise. I don't believe it's ever been disputed that Jeremy was in his own home when he allegedly received a call from Nevill . He made a point of saying he was in his own home when he asked the police for a lift FROM HIS OWN HOME.

How can you account for the engaged tone when JB tried to call his father back ? Regardless of what the engineer said.

[Jane]

How can you account for the engaged tone when JB tried to call his father back ? Regardless of what the engineer said.

Ooops! Silly me. I should have remembered that you know more than the experts.

[guest2181]

How can you account for the engaged tone when JB tried to call his father back ? Regardless of what the engineer said.

It was off the hook, not engaged.

It was off the hook because Jeremy had lifted the kitchen handset off the cradle, quite possibly before the murders to disable the other phones in the house.

[Jane]

I suspect he called his house from WHF, which was answered by the answering machine, thinking that the existence of this call could be checked by the police and add further weight to his story.

The delay in calling the police could well be because he had to make the journey back to Goldhanger before he could make the call.

Yeah. I'd forgotten about the answering machine.

[lookout]

Ooops! Silly me. I should have remembered that you know more than the experts.

I can't believe your naivety.You've never lived,obviously.

Remember------it was so-called experts who put up highly inflammable material on high-rise flats !! Shame on them.

However,I asked you how you accounted for the engaged tone when JB tried to phone back ??

[Jane]

I can't believe your naivety.You've never lived,obviously.

Remember------it was so-called experts who put up highly inflammable material on high-rise flats !! Shame on them.

However,I asked you how you accounted for the engaged tone when JB tried to phone back ??

This isn't about high rise flats, tragic beyond belief though that was. Why do you try to link every current mistake, on the part of the authorities, to the Jeremy Bamber case. It's as if you're saying "Look! I TOLD you so. There's another one". There will ALWAYS be "another one" but it doesn't mean EVERY one.

[Caroline]

Someone at WHF was alive when JB was attempting to ring back after his father had called him. JB was witnessing an engaged tone at the time. Isn't that proof enough that he was at his own home and not committing murder?

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How? The phone being engaged meant the phone was off the hook NOT that someone was speaking on it.

[Caroline]

How can you account for the engaged tone when JB tried to call his father back ? Regardless of what the engineer said.

Because the engaged tone and the off the hook tone were the same. I posted proof of this before but you just close your eyes and ears to it.

[Caroline]

I can't believe your naivety.You've never lived,obviously.

Remember------it was so-called experts who put up highly inflammable material on high-rise flats !! Shame on them.

However,I asked you how you accounted for the engaged tone when JB tried to phone back ??

You have been told many times that the tone was the SAME - any naivety resides with you.

[Caroline]

This isn't about high rise flats, tragic beyond belief though that was. Why do you try to link every current mistake, on the part of the authorities, to the Jeremy Bamber case. It's as if you're saying "Look! I TOLD you so. There's another one". There will ALWAYS be "another one" but it doesn't mean EVERY one.

There is one big difference, no one put cladding on a building with the intention of seeing many people die - Jeremy had intention. The analogy is completely spurious.

[lookout]

I suspect he called his house from WHF, which was answered by the answering machine, thinking that the existence of this call could be checked by the police and add further weight to his story.

The delay in calling the police could well be because he had to make the journey back to Goldhanger before he could make the call.

Oooooh,I don't think so.

[lookout]

This isn't about high rise flats, tragic beyond belief though that was. Why do you try to link every current mistake, on the part of the authorities, to the Jeremy Bamber case. It's as if you're saying "Look! I TOLD you so. There's another one". There will ALWAYS be "another one" but it doesn't mean EVERY one.

Just because I pick-up on something doesn't mean that you prefer to continue in that vain of conversation in order to avoid what I've asked originally.