Kitchen telephone

[lookout]

While Neville was using the kitchen phone,all Sheila had to do was pick up the office phone and she would have heard her father's conversation. The tinkling sound of the kitchen phone being activated would have been heard via any other phone in use at the time and would have alerted Sheila.

[Caroline]

I don't care that this has been" done to death ". In the 80's/90's,I lived in a ( 3 storey ) house where 4 phones worked from the same line,this is how I know what's what regarding tones etc and uses.
I can only add that the systems must have differed from an area which was 200+ miles away.

Like I said, Malden was one of the last to be updated. Your experience is in a different area so you cannot compare like for like. The FACT that West had to get the operator to check the line is proof that the tone was the same for off-hook and busy or he would have known the difference himself.

[Caroline]

While Neville was using the kitchen phone,all Sheila had to do was pick up the office phone and she would have heard her father's conversation. The tinkling sound of the kitchen phone being activated would have been heard via any other phone in use at the time and would have alerted Sheila.

What was Sheila doing in the office Lookout?

[lookout]

What was Sheila doing in the office Lookout?

Upstairs ? Probably sounding off, which is why Neville had told JB that " your sister's going mad ".

[Jane]

Upstairs ? Probably sounding off, which is why Neville had told JB that " your sister's going mad ".

Well, I suppose pigs do fly but why would she have been in an unoccupied office? She had a bedroom. She COULD have ranted at June in her parents' bedroom.

[lookout]

Well, I suppose pigs do fly but why would she have been in an unoccupied office? She had a bedroom. She COULD have ranted at June in her parents' bedroom.

What a xxxxxx question  How would anyone know why Sheila would have been in a " unoccupied " office ? She needn't have even been in the office if she'd had a good set of ears to hear the downstairs phone being used.

[Jane]

What a xxxxxx question  How would anyone know why Sheila would have been in a " unoccupied " office ? She needn't have even been in the office if she'd had a good set of ears to hear the downstairs phone being used.

In a house that size she'd have needed Dumbo flaps! Have just been speaking with a friend who's late husband was a policeman. He worked shifts. When he came in at 2am and signed of using the downstairs phone, the upstairs phone would click or ping, but it couldn't be heard OTHER than by whoever was in bed with the phone beside them.

[lookout]

In a house that size she'd have needed Dumbo flaps! Have just been speaking with a friend who's late husband was a policeman. He worked shifts. When he came in at 2am and signed of using the downstairs phone, the upstairs phone would click or ping, but it couldn't be heard OTHER than by whoever was in bed with the phone beside them.

Those who were already awake------as in the Bamber household,would have had no trouble hearing the ping of another phone in use.

[Caroline]

Upstairs ? Probably sounding off, which is why Neville had told JB that " your sister's going mad ".

We have entered the realms of complete fantasy.

[Jane]

Those who were already awake------as in the Bamber household,would have had no trouble hearing the ping of another phone in use.

Theirs, then, must have been the only house of that sort of construction in which such was possible. ONE tiny ping being heard all over the house? Well, I never!

[lookout]

Theirs, then, must have been the only house of that sort of construction in which such was possible. ONE tiny ping being heard all over the house? Well, I never!

Pity about xxxx xxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxx. Early hours, as Sheila stopped for breath from her ranting, sound carries at night and only a couple of flights of stairs to carry it,you'd hear a pin drop.
Sheila wasn't outside 

[Jane]

Pity about xxxx xxxx xx xxxxxxxxxxxx. Early hours, as Sheila stopped for breath from her ranting, sound carries at night and only a couple of flights of stairs to carry it,you'd hear a pin drop.
Sheila wasn't outside 

Yeah, 'COURSE you would, Lookout Like I said. Pigs MIGHT fly

[notsure]

Why is it different?  A call can't be made without lifting a handset from a cradle. I've left a handset off the cradle or haven't replaced it properly. A voice would tell me -for a specified time- to replace the handset, but it didn't go on indefinitely.

I've never had one of those , if my phone is left off by mistake it just makes a piercing noise.
Is this a recent addition

[Jane]

I've never had one of those , if my phone is left off by mistake it just makes a piercing noise.
Is this a recent addition

Yes. Yours is a more modern version. The one I have currently, doesn't do anything. I guess if I leave it off the cradle for long enough, the battery will wear down!!!!

[lookout]

From actual police log-----Neville's call @ 03.36 ( never disclosed ) Call had been recorded. P.C.Hall.