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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #405 on: June 05, 2017, 04:06:PM »
I remember being in a similar sort of a position at the beginning of 1995, when the prison authorities and the Home Office were dragging their feet claiming that information I was seeking from them as part of my claim for false imprisonment was deliberately being withheld under the guise of pii...

Solicitors who were representing me commenced legal action in the High Court, applying for 'A Voluntary Bill of Indictment' to force them to produce the material they were dishonestly withholding from me/us. No sooner was this legal action started than the Home Office made an offer to settle the matter and I was awarded £42,000 damages for being falsely Imprisoned! My advice to Jeremy and his current legal team is to pursue the demand for the withheld documents through the High Court by way of 'A Voluntary Bill of Indictment' (give us the body), but when you take this course of action you have got to know precisely what your asking for, and give grounds for why it should be disclosed in the interests of justice, and in the public interest, and so on, and so forth! It usually only takes about 28 days from making the application to it being dealt with in the High Court, and the other party once they realise you know what your talking about, they invariably seek a settlement before the court date! In my case I later found out that my case of false imprisonment was worth over £100,000, but I accepted the first offer of £42,000 - I had been released from custody by the time I accepted that settlement!  In Jeremys case its different in so much as he's still very much in custody! But the principle is exactly the same, providing he and his legal team know what documents they are seeking, and they know what disclosure of them, or it will show! I have been assured that there was a 999 call made by someone still alive inside the farmhouse certainly after 5.47am when the phone in the kitchen became 'engaged', the nature of the call amounted to a request for ambulances to be brought quickly to the house, because by that stage people had been shot, were wounded, were dying, or were dead! The really sad thing about it was that Cops thought it was a ploy to get ambulance crews to the house so that Sheila could either shoot them dead, or take them hostage as well! It wasn't until 21 minutes afterwards that the engaged phone line inside the house got transferred and switched to the police at 6.08am! Cops and the CPS, hid this vital information from Bamber, his legal team, and the jury which tried the matter! If the truth had been acknowledged by the authorities during Bambers October 1986 Chelmsford Crown Court trial, then Jeremy Bamber would never have been convicted in the first instance. So, it goes without saying, that on Bambers behalf, take Essex police and the CPS to court to respond to 'A Writ of Habeas Corpus', requesting that they disclose all the information they have got, and had since the morning of the tragedy, which confirms that somebody made a 999 call from inside the farmhouse requesting an ambulance for the wounded, the dying and the dead! It's guaranteed to work, providing they present the facts accurately! What I will guarantee happens is that Jeremy Bamber will sensationally released on Court of appeal bail, whilst the CPS find a solution in so far as an explanation why such an extraordinary course of action has been necessary!

Trust me, these corrupted organisations, don't like a taste of their own medicine...

Yes, there was such a 999 call made by one of the five victims in this tragedy, from inside the farmhouse at a time when Jeremy had left the scene in the company of a uniformed police officer, they went to a local village so that Jeremy could make a call to Julie Mugford, whilst back at the farmhouse, a request was being made for ambulances from a person inside the farm!!

It's a 100% nailed on certainty that this is what did happen...
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #406 on: June 05, 2017, 04:17:PM »
I am 100% telling the truth about the 999 call made by one of the victims from inside the farmhouse by 5.47am when the authorities described the incident of the phone, as simply being 'engaged'...

12 minutes earlier at 5.35am, another police log records, firearms officers are 'engaged in conversation' with a person from inside the farm...

By 6.08am, the call was switched by the operator, from inside the farmhouse to the police in the control room at Chelmsford police station - by 7am two ambulances were arriving at the scene, one for immediate need at the farmhouse, the other on standby in nearby Pages Lane!
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #407 on: June 05, 2017, 04:19:PM »
I am 100% telling the truth about the 999 call made by one of the victims from inside the farmhouse by 5.47am when the authorities described the incident of the phone, as simply being 'engaged'...

12 minutes earlier at 5.35am, another police log records, firearms officers are 'engaged in conversation' with a person from inside the farm...

By 6.08am, the call was switched by the operator, from inside the farmhouse to the police in the control room at Chelmsford police station - by 7am two ambulances were arriving at the scene, one for immediate need at the farmhouse, the other on standby in nearby Pages Lane!

The awful thing is though, that despite two ambulances arriving at the scene by 7am, neither ambulance went directly to the farmhouse!!
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #408 on: June 05, 2017, 04:24:PM »
No sooner did the two ambulances arrive at the scene, than cops who were still communicating with a person inside the farm, reluctantly allowed the said ambulance and its crew to approach the farmhouse because of genuine fears for their safety! My informant told me that both ambulances arrived at the scene both on standby, until a negotiation took place for the person inside to show the weapon they had been using at a window, as a gesture of goodwill, because only then would the ambulance and its crew be sent to the farmhouse..
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #409 on: June 05, 2017, 04:28:PM »
No sooner did the two ambulances arrive at the scene, than cops who were still communicating with a person inside the farm, reluctantly allowed the said ambulance and its crew to approach the farmhouse because of genuine fears for their safety! My informant told me that both ambulances arrived at the scene both on standby, until a negotiation took place for the person inside to show the weapon they had been using at a window, as a gesture of goodwill, because only then would the ambulance and its crew be sent to the farmhouse..

At around 7.15am, the anshuzt rifle was presented at the first floor box room window!

Nobody saw who deposited it there, although everyone present outside who were surrounding the farmhouse assumed whether rightly or wrongly, that the person who had placed 'it' there, was none other than Sheila Caffell..

I myself am one such person who actually believes that/this to be true, and accurate...
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #410 on: June 05, 2017, 04:31:PM »
Cops prevented the ambulances and their crews from going directly to the farmhouse - these ambulances arrived by 7am, but were kept back and in fact were never introduced to the farmhouse, to verify that anybody was wounded, or dying, or had died!
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #411 on: June 05, 2017, 04:34:PM »
Cops prevented the ambulances and their crews from going directly to the farmhouse - these ambulances arrived by 7am, but were kept back and in fact were never introduced to the farmhouse, to verify that anybody was wounded, or dying, or had died!

Please read the firearm officers witness statements, please read the contents of all the police logs, these ambulances and their crews did not tend to the wounded, the dead, or the dying!
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #412 on: June 05, 2017, 04:36:PM »
This cannot be acceptable, or true, unless something truly dramatic and potentially life changing happened once the firearm officers entered the farmhouse, in place of the ambulance crews by 7.30am...
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #413 on: June 05, 2017, 04:40:PM »
This cannot be acceptable, or true, unless something truly dramatic and potentially life changing happened once the firearm officers entered the farmhouse, in place of the ambulance crews by 7.30am...

Please, all of you, read the witness statements and the contents of all the police message logs - where does it make mention of any member of either ambulance crew entering the farmhouse and pronouncing any victim dead prior to the police surgeon, Dr Craig performed this duty at 8.44am, despite it being known or suggested that by 8.10am the last three of the five bodies had reportedly been found?

Nothing!!
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #414 on: June 05, 2017, 04:40:PM »




I don't expect you have a problem with anything.

Oh, I think -on my own, I've experienced enough to last a life time, Lookout..................and that's without the ones that belong to others.

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #415 on: June 05, 2017, 04:42:PM »
Please, all of you, read the witness statements and the contents of all the police message logs - where does it make mention of any member of either ambulance crew entering the farmhouse and pronouncing any victim dead prior to the police surgeon, Dr Craig performed this duty at 8.44am, despite it being known or suggested that by 8.10am the last three of the five bodies had reportedly been found?

Nothing!!

Ambulance crews had all been present at the scene by 7am, why was there a need not to utilise what these healthcare professionals were trained to do, at the expense of having to wait until 8.44am for the police surgeon (Craig) to perform such duties?
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #416 on: June 05, 2017, 04:44:PM »
Something went dramatically wrong inside that farmhouse, once armed police forced their way in at around 7.30am!
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #417 on: June 05, 2017, 04:49:PM »
Something went dramatically wrong inside that farmhouse, once armed police forced their way in at around 7.30am!

Lets put it this way - two dead bodies, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female found upon entry to kitchen! A murder, and a suicide, all done and dusted by 7.45am, at the latest, and then 'wo be tide me', the 999 open line from the kitchen where the two bodies of a male, and a female, a murder, and a suicide had been reported, closed down at 7.47am (with the other three victims still not yet accounted for)?

Read it all, and weep...
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #418 on: June 05, 2017, 04:55:PM »
Lets put it this way - two dead bodies, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female found upon entry to kitchen! A murder, and a suicide, all done and dusted by 7.45am, at the latest, and then 'wo be tide me', the 999 open line from the kitchen where the two bodies of a male, and a female, a murder, and a suicide had been reported, closed down at 7.47am (with the other three victims still not yet accounted for)?

Read it all, and weep...

No ambulance crews to the farmhouse, whereas in one of the logs one of them was required immediately at the house, the other on standby!

No more bodies downstairs by 7.45am, so why couldn't at least one of the ambulances and its crew enter the farmhouse behind the raid team to perform the duty they had been summoned to do? No, said the police, both bodies in the kitchen were dead, one body of a male, a murder, the other body a female, a suicide - the clock ticked on, it was 7.45am, the two ambulances and their crew had been present at the incident already for over three quarters of an hour!
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #419 on: June 05, 2017, 04:58:PM »
No ambulance crews to the farmhouse, whereas in one of the logs one of them was required immediately at the house, the other on standby!

No more bodies downstairs by 7.45am, so why couldn't at least one of the ambulances and its crew enter the farmhouse behind the raid team to perform the duty they had been summoned to do? No, said the police, both bodies in the kitchen were dead, one body of a male, a murder, the other body a female, a suicide - the clock ticked on, it was 7.45am, the two ambulances and their crew had been present at the incident already for over three quarters of an hour!

The problem here, was that one of the two bodies described as both being dead in the kitchen at various stages (7.30am, 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am, and 7.45am) was not in fact, dead at all...
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