Kitchen telephone

[Caroline]

There is nothing to suggest that Nevill made a 999 call. Pc West got the engaged tone when he tried to call WHF, which was consistent with what Jeremy had told him. The BT operator informed Pc West that the reason for the engaged tone was that the receiver was off-hook (as distinct from the line being in use for a call at the time of the check). The wording used in logs to refer to the status of the line may have varied, but that doesn't imply that the line's status had changed. The line didn't "become engaged" at 5:47am - it was engaged and simply off-hook until the BT operator connected it to police HQ.
The operator wasn't asked to "switch" the line, just to connect it to the police HQ. She might have been asked to do that using the 999 system, but she wasn't allowed to do that, so she used a normal exchange line.

Well said Reader!

[Caroline]

The 3.26am call to Malcom Bonnett from PC West was via an exchange line, not a 999 call! It is not known whether the reference to the 'exchange line' is to the fact that Neville Bambers call to PC West was by way of the exchange line call, or if PC West told Malcom Bonnett that, otherwise Neville's call was by way of a 999 call, and Bonnett recorded the fact that PC West contacted him by way on the exchange line?

What we do know, is that from the offset by 3.42am and 3.56am, the phone at the farm was off the hook, but It became engaged (5.47am), and then at 6.08am  the operator was asked to switch the phone at the farm to the police using the 999 system. The phone status at the farm did change, from being off the hook, to becoming engaged, and then the operator was asked to switch the phone at the farm to the police using the 999 system...

Where does it say '999 system'?

[lookout]

I've seen that on a police log,but don't ask me where.

[mike tesko]

Somebody inside the farmhouse requested ambulances, no such request was ever made by any police officer at the scene, or elsewhere, yet the ambulances mysteriously appeared at the scene at just before 7am, two ambulances in fact, one for immediate use at the farmhouse, the other on stand by in Pages Lane..

[mike tesko]

Why have Essex police and the CPS strove to keep any information relating to why two ambulances were requested just after 6am, to attend the incident - three decades down the line and they are still concealing significant detail and information capable of determining that people, or at least one person was still very much alive inside that farmhouse that 20 armed officers were surrounding and containing!

[Caroline]

I've seen that on a police log,but don't ask me where.

Oh well, that proves that then 

[lookout]

Oh well, that proves that then 

I do know what I've seen.

[Caroline]

I do know what I've seen.

Yes, you frequently claim that. Mike posted a document in which he claimed it suggested the GPO patched into WHF using the 999 system. It doesn't say that.

[lookout]

Yes, you frequently claim that. Mike posted a document in which he claimed it suggested the GPO patched into WHF using the 999 system. It doesn't say that.

I'd read that the call from WHF which had been left open was the 999 line,so said the operator anyway and an officer wrote down same. It was on a thread not long ago showing that particular police report.

[Caroline]

I'd read that the call from WHF which had been left open was the 999 line,so said the operator anyway and an officer wrote down same. It was on a thread not long ago showing that particular police report.

Then someone should be able to find it then.

[lookout]

During the phone-call from JB to JM on the night of the murders,JB had said that his father had told him that " Sheila was going mad ". JM's diary states this as she'd reiterated what JB told her.

Why hasn't this part of the conversation come to the fore the same as " it's all going well " has been flogged ??

[Jane]

During the phone-call from JB to JM on the night of the murders,JB had said that his father had told him that " Sheila was going mad ". JM's diary states this as she'd reiterated what JB told her.

Why hasn't this part of the conversation come to the fore the same as " it's all going well " has been flogged ??

But everything Julie said was a reiteration of what Jeremy had told her.

[Caroline]

During the phone-call from JB to JM on the night of the murders,JB had said that his father had told him that " Sheila was going mad ". JM's diary states this as she'd reiterated what JB told her.

Why hasn't this part of the conversation come to the fore the same as " it's all going well " has been flogged ??

And the 999 system?

[lookout]

And the 999 system?

That was shown via a document on the forum not so long ago. I haven't forgotten it ! But you'll do your damndest to avoid/evade ( which is done often ) what JB told JM after Neville had called. That's obvious by the diversion of the original post.

[Jane]

That was shown via a document on the forum not so long ago. I haven't forgotten it ! But you'll do your damndest to avoid/evade ( which is done often ) what JB told JM after Neville had called. That's obvious by the diversion of the original post.

So what if he DID say that Nevill had said Sheila had gone mad and got hold of a gun? How does that make it true? As I said, everything Julie said was a reiteration of what Jeremy had told her.