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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #180 on: May 29, 2017, 09:34:PM »
Jackie she is retired now and doesn't give a f""k about Bamber, she hates him more than anything in the world, she hates him, yes she did work with him, I honestly don't know if she would mind me telling everything, I haven't out of courtesy, she is a lovely lady and her partner was a Chaplin, he repeated the same things to me, I can't tell you more, it was out of the blue that we got connected about Bamber. I have never told anyone fully what she said.

Maybe she is someone prepared to be involved in a documentary series
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #181 on: May 29, 2017, 09:36:PM »
Jackie she is retired now and doesn't give a f""k about Bamber, she hates him more than anything in the world, she hates him, yes she did work with him, I honestly don't know if she would mind me telling everything, I haven't out of courtesy, she is a lovely lady and her partner was a Chaplin, he repeated the same things to me, I can't tell you more, it was out of the blue that we got connected about Bamber. I have never told anyone fully what she said. Most was messages sent between family.  I'm not saying anything more on it

I really am interested in hearing from anyone that is absolutely genuine who has anything good or bad to say about Jeremy
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #182 on: May 29, 2017, 09:36:PM »
Maybe she is someone prepared to be involved in a documentary series
Could do, I don't know, you find her and ask her

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #183 on: May 29, 2017, 09:38:PM »
I just don't like pm messages, I prefer everything out in the open as I have had so many fake people contact me
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #184 on: May 29, 2017, 09:38:PM »
I really am interested in hearing from anyone that is absolutely genuine who has anything good or bad to say about Jeremy
When you write to Jeremy ask him who they were.

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #185 on: May 30, 2017, 12:04:AM »
I agree Justice, I don;t have bind faith in anyone. But he does seem to have contradicted himself - although I'm sure there will be an excuse forthcoming.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5566.msg243411.html#msg243411

That's not a contradiction, he knew him or he met him once?

If Taff was known for being an honest cop and had strong beliefs there is nothing wrong with Bills posts and at the moment Bill has not given us enough evidence to discuss further
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #186 on: May 30, 2017, 07:05:AM »
justice has this per son you talk of ever met jb
Hi Notsure, I have not bought this person out of thin air and to try and convince anyone, the forum has always run best with truth and honesty, I have been on here and witnessed so much untruth and joined in and I'm ashamed of it, ashamed I was hoodwinked.  Jackie first brought up a conversation saying I have never met Jeremy, she is right I haven't I told her that, I replied back about this psychiatrist I know who had, that's the only reason this was brought up.  I don't want anyone to believe it, but it's the truth what she told me.  I will never ever reveal what she said in full.  I have seen the same pattern starting all again.

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #187 on: May 30, 2017, 07:32:AM »
Hi Notsure, I have not bought this person out of thin air and to try and convince anyone, the forum has always run best with truth and honesty, I have been on here and witnessed so much untruth and joined in and I'm ashamed of it, ashamed I was hoodwinked.  Jackie first brought up a conversation saying I have never met Jeremy, she is right I haven't I told her that, I replied back about this psychiatrist I know who had, that's the only reason this was brought up.  I don't want anyone to believe it, but it's the truth what she told me.  I will never ever reveal what she said in full.  I have seen the same pattern starting all again.

Assuming this person was truthful. You do realise prison psychiatrists have to accept the conviction by default in their examinations. Just like the psychiatrist that made a note of Stefan Kiszko suffering from "delusions of innocence".

Watch This https://youtu.be/L9iec6lWq0Y?t=20m18s

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #188 on: May 30, 2017, 07:38:AM »
Assuming this person was truthful. You do realise prison psychiatrists have to accept the conviction by default in their examinations. Just like the psychiatrist that made a note of Stefan Kiszko suffering from "delusions of innocence".

Watch This https://youtu.be/L9iec6lWq0Y?t=20m18s

Are you saying that it invalidates the opinion those who interview him prior to conviction?

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #189 on: May 30, 2017, 07:43:AM »
Assuming this person was truthful. You do realise prison psychiatrists have to accept the conviction by default in their examinations. Just like the psychiatrist that made a note of Stefan Kiszko suffering from "delusions of innocence".

Watch This https://youtu.be/L9iec6lWq0Y?t=20m18s
Yes I do David, I honestly can't give you more, I think she was s person with open mind about everyone, I've said she might have it wrong and there's is nothing better I would like than to say so, I am truthful

It's always been a problem David, the forum has been built on lies and posters don't like the truth, they question the truth more than the lies.  That's why the truth never gets believed.

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #190 on: May 30, 2017, 10:38:AM »
Another thing...

I am not convinced that the telephone used by Neville Bamber to call Jeremy and then the police was the kitchen phone (as depicted in the crime scene photographs)! We know that a request was made for DC Harris to call ACC Peter Simpson using the land line at the farmhouse because its documented in one of the police logs...

We know that Harris, Gibbons, and Montgomery, entered the kitchen just after the three other bodies had been reportedly found upstairs, which when added to the two bodies already found downstairs made five dead in total by 8.10am...

We also know (highly significant) that the 999 eavesdrop set up by the operator was terminated at precisely 7.47am (just after 'Linda' in the control room contacted (SOCO) DS Davidson (7.45am) at his home addresss, to request that he come on duty into the office because police were dealing with an incident at whf, involving 'a murder, and a suicide'. Why was the landline eavesdrop stopped so soon after 'Linda' had spoken with DS Davidson about the discovery of two bodies downstairs in the kitchen by 7.45am?
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #191 on: May 30, 2017, 11:21:AM »
Another thing...

I am not convinced that the telephone used by Neville Bamber to call Jeremy and then the police was the kitchen phone (as depicted in the crime scene photographs)! We know that a request was made for DC Harris to call ACC Peter Simpson using the land line at the farmhouse because its documented in one of the police logs...

We know that Harris, Gibbons, and Montgomery, entered the kitchen just after the three other bodies had been reportedly found upstairs, which when added to the two bodies already found downstairs made five dead in total by 8.10am...

We also know (highly significant) that the 999 eavesdrop set up by the operator was terminated at precisely 7.47am (just after 'Linda' in the control room contacted (SOCO) DS Davidson (7.45am) at his home addresss, to request that he come on duty into the office because police were dealing with an incident at whf, involving 'a murder, and a suicide'. Why was the landline eavesdrop stopped so soon after 'Linda' had spoken with DS Davidson about the discovery of two bodies downstairs in the kitchen by 7.45am?

If we go by 'the facts' that two bodies were reportedly found downstairs in the kitchen (by a reliance upon the various log contents, and the witness statement of DCI 'Terry' Gibbons), we have two bodies downstairs, clearly identified in police records between 7.35am and 7.42am! Yet, within 3 minutes of everybody with an interest in the matter being informed or told that two bodies have been found (the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female), a civilian operator with the Christian name of 'Linda' is contacting DS Davidson (SOCO) at his home address (7.45am)requesting him to come on duty to the office, because police are dealing with an incident at whf involving two bodies, that is 'a murder' and 'a suicide'. Then 2 minutes later (7.47am) the 999 open line created by the operator, is requested to be closed down...
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #192 on: May 30, 2017, 11:28:AM »
If we go by 'the facts' that two bodies were reportedly found downstairs in the kitchen (by a reliance upon the various log contents, and the witness statement of DCI 'Terry' Gibbons), we have two bodies downstairs, clearly identified in police records between 7.35am and 7.42am! Yet, within 3 minutes of everybody with an interest in the matter being informed or told that two bodies have been found (the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female), a civilian operator with the Christian name of 'Linda' is contacting DS Davidson (SOCO) at his home address (7.45am)requesting him to come on duty to the office, because police are dealing with an incident at whf involving two bodies, that is 'a murder' and 'a suicide'. Then 2 minutes later (7.47am) the 999 open line created by the operator, is requested to be closed down...

There were clearly two bodies reportedly found in the kitchen upon entry, PC Collins and anyone else who promoted the suggestion that only one body was found because of a mistake, are clearly dishonest and what I refer to as 'Criminals in uniform'...

The 999 open line was closed down at 7.47am, because those back in the control room and the incident room could overhear PS Woodcocks protestations that Sheila had pulled the barrel of his rifle into and against her own throat / neck...
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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #193 on: May 30, 2017, 11:31:AM »
There were clearly two bodies reportedly found in the kitchen upon entry, PC Collins and anyone else who promoted the suggestion that only one body was found because of a mistake, are clearly dishonest and what I refer to as 'Criminals in uniform'...

The 999 open line was closed down at 7.47am, because those back in the control room and the incident room could overhear PS Woodcocks protestations that Sheila had pulled the barrel of his rifle into and against her own throat / neck...

This was why, 'Linda' back in the control room contacted DS Davidson (SOCO) at his home address by 7.45am, requesting him to come on duty to the office, because police were dealing with an incident at whf involving a murder, and a suicide...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Kitchen telephone
« Reply #194 on: May 30, 2017, 11:33:AM »
This was why, 'Linda' back in the control room contacted DS Davidson (SOCO) at his home address by 7.45am, requesting him to come on duty to the office, because police were dealing with an incident at whf involving a murder, and a suicide...

Only after 'Linda' had contacted DS Davidson (SOCO) at his home address and told him that police were dealing with an incident at whf involving a murder and a suicide, was a request made to terminate the open 999 line to the farmhouse...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...