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Offline Caroline

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #225 on: May 16, 2017, 06:44:PM »
As the post above you know Mugford would never in a million years offer to identify the bodies if she knew for definate her boyfriend was responsible for the dead bodies

And FACT MUGFORD was not the only person who could identify the twins

I have checked with my friend who is a high ranking policeman who said the police would have sent a car to pick up the appropriate person

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #226 on: May 16, 2017, 06:48:PM »
As the post above you know Mugford would never in a million years offer to identify the bodies if she knew for definate her boyfriend was responsible for the dead bodies

And FACT MUGFORD was not the only person who could identify the twins

I have checked with my friend who is a high ranking policeman who said the police would have sent a car to pick up the appropriate person

Jackie, it doesn't need any sort of policeman to tell you that police will send a car for anyone for anything. Did they not send a car to pick Julie up that morning, OR a car within the area of another force took her. It's as broad as it is long. The point was, Julie was there at the time ergo Julie was the most convenient person who knew for sure which twin was which. Or perhaps you'd like me to verify that with MY friend, a judge?

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #227 on: May 16, 2017, 07:01:PM »
Jackie, it doesn't need any sort of policeman to tell you that police will send a car for anyone for anything. Did they not send a car to pick Julie up that morning, OR a car within the area of another force took her. It's as broad as it is long. The point was, Julie was there at the time ergo Julie was the most convenient person who knew for sure which twin was which. Or perhaps you'd like me to verify that with MY friend, a judge?

Verify what you like but Julie would not have offered to view the bodies of 2 six year old boys if she knew Jeremy was responsible
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #228 on: May 16, 2017, 07:01:PM »
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D yeah right Jackie, yeah right!  ::)


Yep absolutely right
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #229 on: May 16, 2017, 07:02:PM »

Yep absolutely right

Yes I believe you  ::)
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #230 on: May 16, 2017, 07:06:PM »
Verify what you like but Julie would not have offered to view the bodies of 2 six year old boys if she knew Jeremy was responsible

Jackie I agree with you one hundred percent.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #231 on: May 16, 2017, 07:15:PM »
Verify what you like but Julie would not have offered to view the bodies of 2 six year old boys if she knew Jeremy was responsible

Actually Jackie, if you'd bothered to read my posts, you'd have seen that, in this case, I agree with you. I think, at that stage she only suspected but hoped she was wrong. Unfortunately, if one can only see things in terms of black or white it becomes difficult to see any other view than one's own.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #232 on: May 16, 2017, 07:16:PM »
Verify what you like but Julie would not have offered to view the bodies of 2 six year old boys if she knew Jeremy was responsible

Why wouldn't she?
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #233 on: May 16, 2017, 07:21:PM »
Bamber rings Julie at 10pm, 3am & 5am.

Then Bamber gets a police car to pick her up to whisk her to WHF. Which he testified was wrong of him to do.

Still in a daze Julie's  quickly asked by AE & the police to identify the twins as she can tell them apart.

Thirty two years later Julie is still getting all the blame.

'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #234 on: May 16, 2017, 07:25:PM »
Verify what you like but Julie would not have offered to view the bodies of 2 six year old boys if she knew Jeremy was responsible

That's just you're opinion. Although you've never been in her situation as a 20 year old.
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #235 on: May 16, 2017, 07:31:PM »
As the post above you know Mugford would never in a million years offer to identify the bodies if she knew for definate her boyfriend was responsible for the dead bodies

And FACT MUGFORD was not the only person who could identify the twins

I have checked with my friend who is a high ranking policeman who said the police would have sent a car to pick up the appropriate person

You mean the mysterious neighbour or social worker who could perhaps identify the twins apart.

You need to focus on the forensic & circumstantial evidence. Which is what got and has kept Bamber convicted.

The jury & appeal courts know Julie identified the twins. Although the trial judge never thought it was worthy of mentioning in his summing up.
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #236 on: May 16, 2017, 07:49:PM »
Julie identifying the twins was not mentioned in the 2002 & 2012 CCRC/COA applications either.

Supporters need to focus on the mountain of forensic & circumstantial evidence which convicted Bamber.

If Roch & Jackie have got new evidence they should post it on here. Just as the OS, Bamber, CT & 360 post on the internet about developments. Rather than posting about Julie identifying the twins. Otherwise people won't believe them.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2017, 07:52:PM by Adam »
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #237 on: May 16, 2017, 08:05:PM »
Why wouldn't she?

There is no reason why she wouldn't and they wouldn't ask teachers, foster carers (unless the child was in their care) or social workers; who would have no reason to be able to tell them apart and certainly NOT when they had a person AT THE SCENE able to do the job.
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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #238 on: May 16, 2017, 08:14:PM »
There is no reason why she wouldn't and they wouldn't ask teachers, foster carers (unless the child was in their care) or social workers; who would have no reason to be able to tell them apart and certainly NOT when they had a person AT THE SCENE able to do the job.

Why is it that people are so keen to find someone other than Julie to identify the twins. That's probably how Julie felt but as she was the only one on hand she drew the short straw.

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Re: How Many People Knew The Twins
« Reply #239 on: May 16, 2017, 08:18:PM »
Why is it that people are so keen to find someone other than Julie to identify the twins. That's probably how Julie felt but as she was the only one on hand she drew the short straw.

Because as she did ID them. the premise is that Jeremy can't be guilty or she would never have been able to do so. It's not even a logical argument.
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