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Offline susan

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« Reply #300 on: August 02, 2017, 07:39:PM »
Quote from: JackieD on August 02, 2017, 06:54:PM
My video made Simon interested in the case

Jackie I am led to believe that you got Simon MacKay on board and NGB.  You have put so much into this case hope all your hard work pays off.
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« Reply #301 on: August 02, 2017, 08:13:PM »
I am sure you are all lovely people when not on the forum .

Well not really sure . But it is a possibility.
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« Reply #302 on: August 02, 2017, 08:25:PM »
Quote from: susan on August 02, 2017, 07:39:PM
Jackie I am led to believe that you got Simon MacKay on board and NGB.  You have put so much into this case hope all your hard work pays off.

Yes Susan and Mark Williams Thomas and they all got abused on the red forum
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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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« Reply #303 on: August 02, 2017, 08:30:PM »
Quote from: JackieD on August 02, 2017, 08:25:PM
Yes Susan and Mark Williams Thomas and they all got abused on the red forum

Jackie that is so sad that people have to be abusive to people with different opinions .
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« Reply #304 on: August 02, 2017, 08:35:PM »
Quote from: Jan on August 02, 2017, 08:13:PM
I am sure you are all lovely people when not on the forum .

Well not really sure . But it is a possibility.

Jan I wonder :)
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« Reply #305 on: August 02, 2017, 09:12:PM »
Quote from: JackieD on August 02, 2017, 08:25:PM
Yes Susan and Mark Williams Thomas and they all got abused on the red forum

Wondered when you'd drop his name into it ........ AGAIN!  ::) ::)
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« Reply #306 on: August 02, 2017, 09:27:PM »
Quote from: Jan on August 02, 2017, 08:13:PM
I am sure you are all lovely people when not on the forum .

Well not really sure . But it is a possibility.

Some maybe, others not so.
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« Reply #307 on: August 02, 2017, 10:33:PM »
Quote from: Caroline on August 02, 2017, 09:12:PM
Wondered when you'd drop his name into it ........ AGAIN!  ::) ::)


And I will drop his name as many times as I like as I have the greatest respect for him
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Re: Police V family
« Reply #308 on: August 03, 2017, 07:57:AM »
Quote from: JackieD on August 02, 2017, 10:33:PM

And I will drop his name as many times as I like as I have the greatest respect for him

 ::)
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Re: Police V family
« Reply #309 on: August 03, 2017, 12:57:PM »
Quote from: Adam on August 01, 2017, 09:41:PM
87. Thereafter Sheila Caffell received monthly injections of Haloperidol, a drug used to treat agitated states which had anti-psychotic and tranquillising properties. It also has sedative side effects at the levels prescribed.

148. Sheila Caffell, probably in a sedated state from her medication, was also shot in the bedroom.

So you are chosing to ignore some other possible side affects of the drug ?
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« Reply #310 on: August 04, 2017, 05:26:PM »
Side effects would have been noticed because she wasn't taking her other meds to counteract the effects of Haldol. ALL anti-psychotic meds have the most severe side effects with some having the opposite effect to that which would normally treat the illness.
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« Reply #311 on: August 04, 2017, 05:31:PM »
Quote from: lookout on August 04, 2017, 05:26:PM
Side effects would have been noticed because she wasn't taking her other meds to counteract the effects of Haldol. ALL anti-psychotic meds have the most severe side effects with some having the opposite effect to that which would normally treat the illness.

She probably felt she no longer needed to. She'd complained about certain side effects and the dose had been halved. She didn't go back and complain that she was STILL experiencing side effects. Any side effects would be unlikely to take 18 weeks to manifest themselves.
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« Reply #312 on: August 04, 2017, 05:38:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on August 04, 2017, 05:31:PM
She probably felt she no longer needed to. She'd complained about certain side effects and the dose had been halved. She didn't go back and complain that she was STILL experiencing side effects. Any side effects would be unlikely to take 18 weeks to manifest themselves.




We don't know for how long she'd not been taking her other medication. Haldol alone would have done nothing for her except to exacerbate a problem that she already had.
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Re: Police V family
« Reply #313 on: August 04, 2017, 05:46:PM »
Quote from: lookout on August 04, 2017, 05:38:PM



We don't know for how long she'd not been taking her other medication. Haldol alone would have done nothing for her except to exacerbate a problem that she already had.

To quote Jeremy "Isn't that for you to prove?" I was given medication to counteract the side effects of another medication. When I stopped taking it I no longer required medication to stop the side effects. In all likelihood, if Sheila was no longer experiencing difficult side effects, it's reasonable to assume she wouldn't need medication to counteract them. It's only YOUR opinion that Haloperidol was the wrong medication for her. I feel certain Dr Ferguson -unless world thinking has now banned it from being prescribed- would argue against your belief. would
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« Reply #314 on: August 04, 2017, 05:54:PM »
Quote from: Jane J on August 04, 2017, 05:46:PM
To quote Jeremy "Isn't that for you to prove?" I was given medication to counteract the side effects of another medication. When I stopped taking it I no longer required medication to stop the side effects. In all likelihood, if Sheila was no longer experiencing difficult side effects, it's reasonable to assume she wouldn't need medication to counteract them. It's only YOUR opinion that Haloperidol was the wrong medication for her. I feel certain Dr Ferguson -unless world thinking has now banned it from being prescribed- would argue against your belief. would





It all depends on what the medication is and what it's treating. Some work quite well without the need for anything else to counteract side-effects,though my philosophy is that there's no need for " extra " meds if the right medication works in the first place.
 
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