Police V family

[lookout]

Bamber's police interviews -


Over 30 'No comments' & 'can't remembers'. Over 10 -don't knows' & 'can't say'.

Several one word answers as well as vague answers such as 'not really', 'I think so'  & 'less than 40 but more than 10 !'

The police had to often ask the same simple questions several times in order to get a straight answer. He initially said he phoned Julie before the police & could not remember what they spoke about at 3am. He eventually said Julie was phoned after the police phone call.

He even suggested the dog fired the second shot at Sheila and Nevill said 'She', not 'Sheila' !

These interviews were several weeks after the deaths. Bamber was recovering well & enjoying several jolly up's so could not use grief/shock as a reason for his poor evasiveness.

It's a Hell of a lot harder when you've done NOTHING.!!

[lookout]

Speaking of threads Roch I have noticed some in the Relatives statements.
"I forget" " I do not recollect" " I can't remember" .

I'm surprised the defence weren't more forceful . There are at least 6 of those very phrases in AE's statement alone.

[Adam]

I've just given you MM & Bamber's court testimonies.

Are you saying MM lied & then Bamber lied by agreeing with her lies ?

Hopefully Lucy will answer my question.

Either Mary Mugford lied in court as accused by Lucy. Meaning Bamber then also lied by agreeing with MM's lies in court.

Or MM told the truth. Meaning Bamber told the truth in agreeing with her.

[Adam]

Chapter 31, page 220 of Wilkes's book -

Julies mother Mary Mugford followed her daughter into the witness box.

She said 'Jeremy hated his mother & blamed her for turning Sheila mad. And he resented her for loving the twins more than him. Jeremy disliked his mother intensely & I felt he was more affectionate to me'.

'He used to call me mummy all the time. He offerred me his mothers small car which had been bought that Christmas. This was just after the shooting. A list had been drawn up and he was going to keep no momentoes, which I thought very strange. He wanted to sell everthing'.

'Jeremy resented his mother because she sent him away to boarding school. He never forgave her for that.

'Apparently she was a religious maniac'.

'A few months before the murders Jeremy had told me her mother was thinking of changing her will in favour of her grandsons, on whom she doted'.

'Jeremy never spoke to his mother & she never showed any affection towards him'.

'He often spoke of this'.

[Roch]

Speaking of threads Roch I have noticed some in the Relatives statements.
"I forget" " I do not recollect" " I can't remember" .

Yeah, they wont remember what was explained to them regarding how Sheila was the killer.  They will attempt to blame police regarding the evidence I am referring to.  They will say it was not disclosed to them. 

What they wont say is that their dad / uncle or whatever, managed to install as head of the investigation, the very detective who oversaw the concealment the evidence in question.   

BTW some of it is on the forum and is actually very obvious 

[Lucy522]

Chapter 31, page 220 of Wilkes's book -

Julies mother Mary Mugford followed her daughter into the witness box.

She said 'Jeremy hated his mother & blamed her for turning Sheila mad. And he resented her for loving the twins more than him. Jeremy disliked his mother intensely & I felt he was more affectionate to me'.

'He used to call me mummy all the time. He offerred me his mothers small car which had been bought that Christmas. This was just after the shooting. A list had been drawn up and he was going to keep no momentoes, which I thought very strange. He wanted to sell everthing'.

'Jeremy resented his mother because she sent him away to boarding school. He never forgave her for that.

'Apparently she was a religious maniac'.

'A few months before the murders Jeremy had told me her mother was thinking of changing her will in favour of her grandsons, on whom she doted'.

'Jeremy never spoke to his mother & she never showed any affection towards him'.

'He often spoke of this'.

..
Where's Jeremy's testimony agreeing with this?

[Adam]

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Where's Jeremy's testimony agreeing with this?

I've already posted Bamber's testimony on here today. You responded to each point.  Keep up.

[Lucy522]

I've already posted Bamber's testimony on here today. You responded to each point.  Keep up.

No you posted points not the transcript that's what I want to read and I can't find it

[David1819]

No you posted points not the transcript that's what I want to read and I can't find it

You will notice Adam never posts the actual transcripts/papers. I wonder why 

[Lucy522]

You will notice Adam never posts the actual transcripts/papers. I wonder why 

I know that's all I want to see David I can't find it in the library either

[Adam]

No you posted points not the transcript that's what I want to read and I can't find it

You should know as you've read Wilkes's book this month. Mind you, you hadn't remembered Bamber said 'only I know what really happened that night'. Something you said you 'can't explain'.

Page 234.

[David1819]

I know that's all I want to see David I can't find it in the library either

You mean Adams forensic library of incriminating evidence?

[Adam]

You will notice Adam never posts the actual transcripts/papers. I wonder why 

There are no transcripts for Bamber or MM. However a lot of testimony in Wilkes's book. But then again you've never read any books on the subject. Have you ?

[Adam]

You mean Adams forensic library of incriminating evidence?

I know the 50+ pieces of incriminating forensic evidence in the library can't compete with you're hush hush 'forensic evidence breakthrough'.

Wait there, the secret came out. You're breakthrough was a palm print on the bible. Ohhh.

[Lucy522]

You should know as you've read Wilkes's book this month. Mind you, you hadn't remembered Bamber said 'only I know what really happened that night'. Something you said you 'can't explain'.

Page 234.

Don't be so rude Adam,