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Offline Lucy522

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Re: Police V family
« Reply #90 on: May 06, 2017, 11:33:AM »
You're going to make excuses for everything which shows Bamber is guilty. Although you can't explain how Sheila committed the massacre.

Bamber's court testimony was posted by me as he agrees with MM. After you accused her of lying.


And your going to make an excuse for everything that may prove his innocence

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« Reply #91 on: May 06, 2017, 11:35:AM »
Adam must be ex-EP ! It all ties in with the excuses.

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« Reply #92 on: May 06, 2017, 11:36:AM »

And your going to make an excuse for everything that may prove his innocence

You're the one fire fighting. After I posted MM & Bamber's court testimony.

Although I have fire fighted AE giving the police Nevill's wallet. Which proves nothing.
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« Reply #93 on: May 06, 2017, 11:36:AM »

Chapter 31, page 220 of Wilkes's book -

Julies mother Mary Mugford followed her daughter into the witness box.

She said 'Jeremy hated his mother & blamed her for turning Sheila mad. And he resented her for loving the twins more than him. Jeremy disliked his mother intensely & I felt he was more affectionate to me'.

'He used to call me mummy all the time. He offerred me his mothers small car which had been bought that Christmas. This was just after the shooting. A list had been drawn up and he was going to keep no momentoes, which I thought very strange. He wanted to sell everthing'.

'Jeremy resented his mother because she sent him away to boarding school. He never forgave her for that.

'Apparently she was a religious maniac'.

'A few months before the murders Jeremy had told me her mother was thinking of changing her will in favour of her grandsons, on whom she doted'.

'Jeremy never spoke to his mother & she never showed any affection towards him'.

'He often spoke of this'.

It's obvious Mary Mugford is as much of a liar as her money grabbing daughter
We have here in the forum the letter from June who makes it clear how much she adores her children

Interesting the twins are mentioned and I wonder why the defence didn't question Mugford on why she volunteered to view the victims bodies when she knew her boyfriend was responsible
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« Reply #94 on: May 06, 2017, 11:37:AM »
You're the one fire fighting. After I put MM & Bamber's court testimony.

Although I have fire fighted AE giving the police Nevill's wallet. Which proves nothing.
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I'm not fighting at all Adam just saying a fact but you excuse the lies

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« Reply #95 on: May 06, 2017, 11:39:AM »
It's obvious Mary Mugford is as much of a liar as her money grabbing daughter
We have here in the forum the letter from June who makes it clear how much she adores her children

Interesting the twins are mentioned and I wonder why the defence didn't question Mugford on why she volunteered to view the victims bodies when she knew her boyfriend was responsible

As Lucy said, MM lied. Although Bamber agreed with MM when testifying.
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« Reply #96 on: May 06, 2017, 11:43:AM »
Maybe but Julie herself said she'd been more accepted by June she got on well with Sheila and the boys and went to the farm doesn't sound like she was hated at all,

It's not a question of whether she was or wasn't hated. It's about how she felt. It's very possible that June accepted Julie as no more than fait accomplis and Julie would have known this..............as women do.

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« Reply #97 on: May 06, 2017, 11:43:AM »
As Lucy said, MM lied. Although Bamber agreed with MM when testifying.
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He totally agreed with every word did he?

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« Reply #98 on: May 06, 2017, 11:43:AM »
As Lucy said, MM lied. Although Bamber agreed with MM when testifying.






Poor Jeremy believed,and was taken-in by everyone until it dawned on him that he'd been " swimming with sharks ". Have you never encountered people like that ? If not,you've never lived and therefore will NEVER believe nor understand that such people exist !

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« Reply #99 on: May 06, 2017, 11:44:AM »
It's not a question of whether she was or wasn't hated. It's about how she felt. It's very possible that June accepted Julie as no more than fait accomplis and Julie would have known this..............as women do.


We do, my father in law hates me lol

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« Reply #100 on: May 06, 2017, 11:46:AM »
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He totally agreed with every word did he?

I've just given you MM & Bamber's court testimonies.

Are you saying MM lied & then Bamber lied by agreeing with her lies ?
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« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2017, 11:51:AM »
Why MUST you bring YOU into it at every opportunity. It's as if you think you and Jeremy have something in common.

Personal attack as per normal
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« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2017, 11:55:AM »

We do, my father in law hates me lol

So Lucy, you DO understand what these people would have felt like. NONE of them were robots, and there was no special psychology for them that is any different from those we have.

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« Reply #103 on: May 06, 2017, 12:15:PM »
Please forgive the observation, Roch, but prior to it being revealed that much of what you say has come from the CT, it had occurred to me that you were starting to speak with the fervency of a newly converted cult member. It bought to mind something I did about cults when I was at college, namely that the newly converted to -well, anything one can name, really,- are always more strident and emphatic in their beliefs than those bought up with them.

Hi Jane - you are forgiven  :))

Honestly - I can say hand on heart - with regard to the case itself I have had no involvement with the CT or from the CT.  I signed up to the Change.Org campaign about disclosure and that's as far as it goes. 

I think Lorna Lake is genuine and nice person and Trudi has been friendly in the past - for example acknowledging if I have signed up to a campaign or shared something on social media etc.  But that's as far as it goes.  If members find it difficult to trust what I'm saying regarding physical evidence that was recorded but concealed then fair enough.  Perhaps all I can urge is that they at least consider a position of neutrality on the case 50/50 until such time as disclosures can be made.

I do feel that a desperate need to dismiss the significance of evidence not yet made public, is the wrong motivation for wanting it to be made public!  People / members should approach this issue with an open mind.   

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Re: Police V family
« Reply #104 on: May 06, 2017, 12:23:PM »
Hi Jane - you are forgiven  :))

Honestly - I can say hand on heart - with regard to the case itself I have had no involvement with the CT or from the CT.  I signed up to the Change.Org campaign about disclosure and that's as far as it goes. 

I think Lorna Lake is genuine and nice person and Trudi has been friendly in the past - for example acknowledging if I have signed up to a campaign or shared something on social media etc.  But that's as far as it goes.  If members find it difficult to trust what I'm saying regarding physical evidence that was recorded but concealed then fair enough.  Perhaps all I can urge is that they at least consider a position of neutrality on the case 50/50 until such time as disclosures can be made.

I do feel that a desperate need to dismiss the significance of evidence not yet made public, is the wrong motivation for wanting it to be made public!  People / members should approach this issue with an open mind.

How can someone have an open mind about something that hasn't been revealed?

I posted letters here a short time ago that PROVES what I said about my attempt to find out how Jeremy knew what was in his fathers wallet. The evidence was there to read and yet STILL a few have used it to try and discredit me. An open mind? People are defending their stance NOT trying to get to the truth. If you are right, I would be the first to admit being wrong - I really don't care one way or the other.
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