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Offline Lucy522

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #165 on: April 23, 2017, 11:48:AM »




Sheila's prints were on the shotgun Lucy.Just tuned in, so someone else may or may not have mentioned that.

Oh really!! Why would Sheila be handling the shotgun???

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #166 on: April 23, 2017, 11:48:AM »
I'm not sure I perceive it in that way.

I think she's just lost a number of relatives in a horrific incident and she's trying to join the dots up of something that doesn't make sense to her.
Imo we have to remember that although AE may not have been very close to her Uncle and Aunt or have known Sheila and Jeremy very well however they were always there in the background as part of her extended family.   June was her Mother's sister so they were part of her history and security.
Innocents, including myself when I was, rightly argue that JB was bound to be traumatised and shocked by the murders if he was innocent because he had lost everybody and then tend to forget the absolute horror for Ann as a young woman also the rest of the family.  Pamela, her mum must have been totally distraught so it's no wonder Ann was angry and determined to find the perpetrator. ...... in other words we need to remember she would have been traumatised as well and therefore may have behaved in ways considered over the top, difficult to understand etc.  :-\
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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #167 on: April 23, 2017, 11:49:AM »
I have a problem with it to, and the fact she was giving people tours of the house insisting they were shown what had happened in each room like some macabre circus

Tours of the house ?

Anyway you're scenario of how Sheila committed the massacre has been dismissed. Which is what the thread was originally about.

No one has supported you're new suggestion that a fully fit Nevill came off injured & second best to Sheila in a struggle. Then let Sheila go upstairs with a loaded rifle while he rang Bamber.

AE apparently giving tours of the house is academic.
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'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #168 on: April 23, 2017, 11:54:AM »
Tours of the house ?

Anyway you're scenario of how Sheila committed the massacre has been dismissed. Which is what the thread was originally about.

No one has supported you're new suggestion that a fully fit Nevill came off injured & second best to Sheila in a struggle. Then let Sheila go upstairs with a rifle while he rang Bamber.

AE apparently giving tours of the house is academic.

Okay then we will not comment Any more

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #169 on: April 23, 2017, 11:56:AM »
Grabbing everything she could :). You are getting over excited again.

The relatives did not think Sheila was capable of committing the massacre. So went to the police.

They looked for evidence after Stan Jones gave them the keys to WHF for a tidy up. Bamber was in Amsterdam buying drugs.

The relatives found the silencer. BW & Basil Cock were also in the building.

Well that's not how I see it and we are all entitled to our opinion.

If the was such a viscous fight then where were UBS injuries. Not even a scratch to the face.

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #170 on: April 23, 2017, 11:58:AM »
Okay then we will not comment Any more

You're suggesting Sheila committed the massacre & the relatives, lead by AE framed Bamber. This did not happen.

You can still support Bamber. On Mike's & Sherlock's views that it was RB or a hit man team. Or that Bamber is guilty but has been treated unfairly by the courts.
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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #171 on: April 23, 2017, 12:01:PM »
Well that's not how I see it and we are all entitled to our opinion.

If the was such a viscous fight then where were UBS injuries. Not even a scratch to the face.

The judge said Nevill put up a 'tremendous fight for life'. The kitchen evidence supports this.

Why would Bamber come out of this uninjured while Sheila wouldn't ? I'll leave you to work it out.
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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #172 on: April 23, 2017, 12:16:PM »
Tours of the house ?

Anyway you're scenario of how Sheila committed the massacre has been dismissed. Which is what the thread was originally about.

No one has supported you're new suggestion that a fully fit Nevill came off injured & second best to Sheila in a struggle. Then let Sheila go upstairs with a loaded rifle while he rang Bamber.

AE apparently giving tours of the house is academic.

Ummm who are you to dismiss anyone's theories or opinions. I for one completely agree with Lucy so not dismissed at all.

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #173 on: April 23, 2017, 12:18:PM »
You're suggesting Sheila committed the massacre & the relatives, lead by AE framed Bamber. This did not happen.

You can still support Bamber. On Mike's & Sherlock's views that it was RB or a hit man team. Or that Bamber is guilty but has been treated unfairly by the courts.

A mad insane woman would be perfectly capable of doing that. So it could of happened this

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #174 on: April 23, 2017, 12:22:PM »
Yes so what I was insinuating Caroline was Neville sustaining "some" of his injuries NOT the gunshots first, him and Sheila struggled in the kitchen, he MAY of then rang Jeremy to say Sheila has gone crazy with the gun not thinking she would actually use it, while he's on the phone she then runs upstairs with it and begins firing at June, hence him receiving his first 4  shots in the entry to the room, he then flees downstairs where Sheila finishes him off,

Oh OK, soz  ;D. Most things are possible in scenario's I guess.
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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #175 on: April 23, 2017, 12:24:PM »
Oh really!! Why would Sheila be handling the shotgun???





Your guess is as good as mine. I only repeat what I've read.

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #176 on: April 23, 2017, 12:32:PM »
Oh really!! Why would Sheila be handling the shotgun???

Sheila's prints weren't on the shotgun. Lookout has said this on numerous occasions but there is no official source - she read it on here but that doesn't make it a fact of the case.
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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #177 on: April 23, 2017, 01:48:PM »
Sheila's prints weren't on the shotgun. Lookout has said this on numerous occasions but there is no official source - she read it on here but that doesn't make it a fact of the case.




Well one of the things included in the Stokenchurch items was a cartridge from a shotgun,so how is that accountable ? Especially as the shotgun had been found elsewhere instead of the gun cupboard.

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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #178 on: April 23, 2017, 02:41:PM »



Well one of the things included in the Stokenchurch items was a cartridge from a shotgun,so how is that accountable ? Especially as the shotgun had been found elsewhere instead of the gun cupboard.

How does it follow from that, that Sheila's prints were on the shotgun?
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Re: Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer
« Reply #179 on: April 23, 2017, 03:20:PM »
The judge said Nevill put up a 'tremendous fight for life'. The kitchen evidence supports this.

Why would Bamber come out of this uninjured while Sheila wouldn't ? I'll leave you to work it out.

The fight never happened. Neville was hit with the rifle while he was semi conscious if not already dead. The mess was then caused the firearm team entering the house.

Like the over sedated myth. The fight is another myth to try and preclude Sheila from being involved.