Thoughts on scenario of Sheila being the killer

[Lucy522]

So I promised Adam I would write up  a scenario on Sheila being the killer,
What are people's views that maybe, Sheila injured Neville with gun in the kitchen first but no shots were fired at that time, he then, made the pbonevall to Jeremy and said "Sheilas got the gun and gone mad" or words to that effect , Instead of phoning 999 because shots had not been fired at that time and he felt that he and or Jeremy together could regain control of the situation without alerting the police.
Please don't be rude to me I would like to discuss people's views on why or why not this could of happened.

[buddy]

So I promised Adam I would write up  a scenario on Sheila being the killer,
What are people's views that maybe, Sheila injured Neville with gun in the kitchen first but no shots were fired at that time, he then, made the pbonevall to Jeremy and said "Sheilas got the gun and gone mad" or words to that effect , Instead of phoning 999 because shots had not been fired at that time and he felt that he and or Jeremy together could regain control of the situation without alerting the police.
Please don't be rude to me I would like to discuss people's views on why or why not this could of happened.

Trouble Lucy it is clear that Neville was first shot in his bedroom.

[Jane]

So I promised Adam I would write up  a scenario on Sheila being the killer,
What are people's views that maybe, Sheila injured Neville with gun in the kitchen first but no shots were fired at that time, he then, made the pbonevall to Jeremy and said "Sheilas got the gun and gone mad" or words to that effect , Instead of phoning 999 because shots had not been fired at that time and he felt that he and or Jeremy together could regain control of the situation without alerting the police.
Please don't be rude to me I would like to discuss people's views on why or why not this could of happened.

If we have a very injured Nevill in the kitchen first, it requires him to have run upstairs afterwards from where, having sustained even more injuries, he then has to make his way downstairs again having achieved nothing by way of stopping Sheila. Before any of this occurs, we have to ask why Sheila would wish to hurt her favourite parent. Then we have to wonder why she'd have chosen to die near the mother with whom she had a difficult relationship and 'abandon' her babies who she loved to pieces.

[Lucy522]

Trouble Lucy it is clear that Neville was first shot in his bedroom.

Yes but could he of been injured first in a confrontation with Sheila in the kitchen?

[Lucy522]

If we have a very injured Nevill in the kitchen first, it requires him to have run upstairs afterwards from where, having sustained even more injuries, he then has to make his way downstairs again having achieved nothing by way of stopping Sheila. Before any of this occurs, we have to ask why Sheila would wish to hurt her favourite parent. Then we have to wonder why she'd have chosen to die near the mother with whom she had a difficult relationship and 'abandon' her babies who she loved to pieces.

Freddie said that she was so bad one day she didn't even recognise people maybe she wanted to go and shoot her mother and Neville got in the way, there had to be time from the first to second shot in the bedroom and it seems from the experts opinion she was laying flat at the time?

[Jane]

Yes but could he of been injured first in a confrontation with Sheila in the kitchen?

I've allowed for that. Sheila goes upstairs first. He follows her, Why would he not hurl himself at her rather than allowing her time to go on shooting?

[guest7363]

So I promised Adam I would write up  a scenario on Sheila being the killer,
What are people's views that maybe, Sheila injured Neville with gun in the kitchen first but no shots were fired at that time, he then, made the pbonevall to Jeremy and said "Sheilas got the gun and gone mad" or words to that effect , Instead of phoning 999 because shots had not been fired at that time and he felt that he and or Jeremy together could regain control of the situation without alerting the police.
Please don't be rude to me I would like to discuss people's views on why or why not this could of happened.

Depends on what you mean by injuring Neville with the gun first Lucy, I think if Sheila was the killer Neville would have had to been shot and wounded before Sheila would inflict damage with the gun in a fight,  It was stated that Neville put up a spirited fight/defence of himself.

[Jane]

Freddie said that she was so bad one day she didn't even recognise people maybe she wanted to go and shoot her mother and Neville got in the way, there had to be time from the first to second shot in the bedroom and it seems from the experts opinion she was laying flat at the time?

But that would have been before she'd been stabilised on medication. I haven't factored in that she was over sedated so obviously wouldn't have been fleet of foot.

[Lucy522]

Depends on what you mean by injuring Neville with the gun first Lucy, I think if Sheila was the killer Neville would have had to been shot and wounded before Sheila would inflict damage with the gun in a fight,  It was stated that Neville put up a spirited fight/defence of himself.

Maybe the hit to the head and the scratch marks on his arm indicate a struggle with someone with nails, he then phoned Jeremy never believing she would use it? He followed her upstairs hence why he was shot in the doorway, maybe she was in the room shooting at June? He only made it as far as the entry to the room before she began firing at him? Jeremy said he sounded agitated on the phone IF that phone call took place something would of already occurred, if it was shots I believe Neville would of phoned 999 not Jeremy?,

[Lucy522]

But that would have been before she'd been stabilised on medication. I haven't factored in that she was over sedated so obviously wouldn't have been fleet of foot.

I just don't believe that after halving her dosage she would of been so slow, she was out and about and left in charge of the twins, do you believe the fostering story?

[guest7363]

Maybe the hit to the head and the scratch marks on his arm indicate a struggle with someone with nails, he then phoned Jeremy never believing she would use it? He followed her upstairs hence why he was shot in the doorway, maybe she was in the room shooting at June? He only made it as far as the entry to the room before she began firing at him? Jeremy said he sounded agitated on the phone IF that phone call took place something would of already occurred, if it was shots I believe Neville would of phoned 999 not Jeremy?,

If she was intent on killing everyone, why hit him first?  Why not shoot him there and then?

[Jane]

I just don't believe that after halving her dosage she would of been so slow, she was out and about and left in charge of the twins, do you believe the fostering story?

Which goes against everything which had been said of her during her last fortnight. She certainly wasn't "out and about" at least, of her own volition, whilst at the farm -other than once when she was seen with the boys and the wording of the incident changes according to who's telling it. I have my doubts about "fostering" per se, but I'll allow that more day care MAY have been mentioned. Sheila only had the boys at weekends. If she'd REALLY needed extra help with them during that time, I think there WOULD be very serious cause to be concerned about her ability to cope.

[Lucy522]

If she was intent on killing everyone, why hit him first?  Why not shoot him there and then?

I don't believe her intent in the beginning was to kill, I believe she was in the grip of n episode and totally lost it.

[Lucy522]

Which goes against everything which had been said of her during her last fortnight. She certainly wasn't "out and about" at least, of her own volition, whilst at the farm -other than once when she was seen with the boys and the wording of the incident changes according to who's telling it. I have my doubts about "fostering" per se, but I'll allow that more day care MAY have been mentioned. Sheila only had the boys at weekends. If she'd REALLY needed extra help with them during that time, I think there WOULD be very serious cause to be concerned about her ability to cope.

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Yes Jane, do you believe as I do that June was very concerned about her health?

[guest7363]

Four of the shots were believed to have been fired to the head  after he had ceased to struggle