Easter Quiz time - who am i describing ?

[sherlock]

Without being seen. I'm assuming he drove from Bourne End to Tolleshunt D'Arcy and left his car somewhere. Wouldn't his family have asked where he'd been during those hours?

If it wasnt Sheila then someone got in without being noticed ...

Why couldn't that someone be Anthony ?

By his family i assume you mean Regine ?

We know nothing about his relationship with Regine.

The fact he lived with her does not rule him out as a suspect at all ...

[Steve_uk]

Why did you say Jackie ?

He would have said Sheila ...

How can you be held to ransom (so to speak) under threat of a gun whose bullets will not kill with one shot? Aren't you more likely to try to wrest control of that weapon from the person wielding it, which is exactly what did happen..

[sherlock]

I like Sherlock's posts. 

But there was physical evidence that indicated Sheila Caffell was the killer.  It was probably shouted by Taff in fustration at Ann, Anthony and Peter or whichever three relatives are referred to in her COLP statement (I think it's Aug 91).  It's probably the reason why the original Coroner's inquest report and Jim Keneally's report are not available. 

The evidence was recorded.

The relatives can go on telly and parrot the case under Ainsley.  But they cant parrot the case under DCI Jones.

If it was not Sheila the someone wanted to make it to look like her ...

This could explain the physical evidence that it was her ...

With respect nothing in your post rules Anthony out as a suspect in my opinion

[sherlock]

How can you be held to ransom (so to speak) under threat of a gun whose bullets will not kill with one shot? Aren't you more likely to try to wrest control of that weapon from the person wielding it, which is exactly what did happen..

Neville might have thought that this was going to be resolved through talking ...

He might have been desperate to resolve any issues they had through talking ...

Maybe he was sure he could calm Anthony down given a bit of time ...

Being shot with a .22 is a fair threat to someone ...

Maybe he did not try to get physical with his nephew until after he had been shot at least once ...

Although wary he may not have believed Anthony would actually shoot him until he actually did ...

Maybe he played along making the call to calm Anthony down and play for time ...

As well as because he was a little wary of the .22 rifle especially with his family in the house ...

[Lucy522]

Neville might have thought that this was going to be resolved through talking ...

He might have been desperate to resolve any issues they had through talking ...

Maybe he was sure he could calm Anthony down given a bit of time ...

Being shot with a .22 is a fair threat to someone ...

Maybe he did not try to get physical with his nephew until after he had been shot at least once ...



If ap had handled the weapon why were his prints not on it?
Although wary he may not have believed Anthony would actually shoot him until he actually did ...

Maybe he played along making the call to calmm Anthonh down and play for time ...

As well as because he was a little wary of the .22 rifle especially with his family in the house ...

[sherlock]

Ae and rb removed Anthony's .22 from the house which was found in the downstairs toilet,

What makes you think that ?

There may be some confusion with a separate air rifle that he also owned ...

[sherlock]

Had a quick read of a search on the forum. Interesting,, will keep reading if you find anything can you send me links please Sherlock.

Separate Anthony thread coming soon 

[Steve_uk]

Neville might have thought that this was going to be resolved through talking ...

He might have been desperate to resolve any issues they had through talking ...

Maybe he was sure he could calm Anthony down given a bit of time ...

Being shot with a .22 is a fair threat to someone ...

Maybe he did not try to get physical with his nephew until after he had been shot at least once ...

Although wary he may not have believed Anthony would actually shoot him until he actually did ...

Maybe he played along making the call to calmm Anthonh down and play for time ...

As well as because he was a little wary of the .22 rifle especially with his family in the house ...

The problem with this plan is if Anthony doesn't manage to lure Jeremy to his death he cops the lot and Anthony gets nothing.

[Lucy522]

What makes you think that ?

There may be some confusion with a separate air rifle that he also owned ...

It's in one of their statements apparently

[sherlock]

And weapon not siezed for years? Why? His statements about the whereabouts of his gun are extremely conflicting,

He lied in his statements about his rifle - why ?

Anthony and Jeremy's accounts about the silencer being on the rifle before the murders appear to contradict one another ...

Anthony said in his statement that the silencer was on the rifle a week before and would not have been removed by Neville or Jeremy ...

Jeremy said in his statement that the silencer was definitely not on the rifle on the evening before the murders  ...

It appears that either Anthony or Jeremy were most likely lying about this point ...

I wonder which one of them was lying and why did they lie ?

My mind is still very open about this question ...

[sherlock]

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[Lucy522]

Here is something about it

[Lucy522]

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Sorry I was trying to attach An image, now done it twice!!!

[sherlock]

The problem with this plan is if Anthony doesn't manage to lure Jeremy to his death he cops the lot and Anthony gets nothing.

The strength of a discussion forum (and indeed a Jury) is the combined knowledge and experience of it's members ....

I can contribute an in depth knowledge of the mind set of middle class people from Essex in 1985 ...

Based on my knowledge i would have assumed that after receiving the phone call that Jeremy would have turned up at the farm house alone ...

It was apparently only his sister having a bit of a turn and Jeremy was needed at the farm to help his father calm her down ...

You have to understand that the Bambers DEFINITELY would have gone to great lengths not to involve the authorities in this type of incidence and would have wanted to resolve it themselves ...

Sheila had never been violent before so why should this incident be a problem ?

It was a very good bet that he would respond to the call and do so on his own without phoning the Police ...

If Neville had wanted the Police there then he would have called them himself - right ?

So what went wrong ?

I believe something in the tone of Nevilles voice spooked Jeremy ...

That is why he called the Police ...

And that is why Anthony had to put plan B into practice ...

He probably had not even considered a plan B until plan A had gone wrong ...

[sherlock]

Here is something about it

The statement you provided relates to 2 shotguns being returned to Jeremy ...

These shotguns are not the .22 rifle that was used in the murders ...

.22 rifles are very different to shotguns ...