Reason to believe cops shot Sheila, and how her blood ended up inside Silencer!

[guest2181]

   The message logs were withheld and were only obtained after the second appeal. As I remember they were only obtained by the defence after a mistake by EP. I believe EP released the first page of a fourteen page log, that had previously been withheld, on the reverse side of some other document that they were disclosing.
    Were the message logs read from and discussed in court?
     Had they been so, it is difficult to believe that the pathetic excuses given since for these anomalies, would have been bought by the jury.
     But we all know really that this is the very reason for the withholding of the message logs.

The logs were not withheld, that is simply a myth.

The logs were handed to both Bonnet and West whilst in court, as were a number of their statements which make references to the logs.

West
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1103.msg34166.html#msg34166

Bonnett
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8131.msg384604.html#msg384604


These are both in the library, along with the various statements.

[Jane]

The logs were not withheld, that is simply a myth.

The logs were handed to both Bonnet and West whilst in court, as were a number of their statements which make references to the logs.

West
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1103.msg34166.html#msg34166

Bonnett
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8131.msg384604.html#msg384604


These are both in the library, along with the various statements.

Thanks H. This regularly trotted out as a weapon in supporters' arsenal.

[Caroline]

The logs were not withheld, that is simply a myth.

The logs were handed to both Bonnet and West whilst in court, as were a number of their statements which make references to the logs.

West
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1103.msg34166.html#msg34166

Bonnett
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8131.msg384604.html#msg384604


These are both in the library, along with the various statements.

I can't count the number of times that I have said this - what can you do if people just don't take any notice of the facts?

[guest2181]

Thanks H. This regularly trotted out as a weapon in supporters' arsenal.

Yeah, and they seem to voice it with a really bad almost scoffing attitude.

What's that all about - weird. 

[guest7363]

The logs were not withheld, that is simply a myth.

The logs were handed to both Bonnet and West whilst in court, as were a number of their statements which make references to the logs.

West
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1103.msg34166.html#msg34166

Bonnett
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8131.msg384604.html#msg384604


These are both in the library, along with the various statements.

Thanks Harley it's also in members of the raid team statements, they don't hide the fact that what they thought was a female

[guest2181]

Thanks Harley it's also in members of the raid team statements, they don't hide the fact that what they thought was a female

Yes, you're absolutely right, it is.

[guest7363]

I can't count the number of times that I have said this - what can you do if people just don't take any notice of the facts?

I know you have Caroline and you get fed up with repeating it, but that's what conspiracies like because it sticks with some.

[guest7363]

Yes, you're absolutely right, it is.

Youre like the Cavalry Hartley and a man for all occasions.

[guest2181]

Youre like the Cavalry Hartley and a man for all occasions.

 

[Jane]

I know you have Caroline and you get fed up with repeating it, but that's what conspiracies like because it sticks with some.

Justice, to my eternal shame, that's exactly what I did when I first joined. I picked up on all the conspiracy theories on offer -I guess it's something about fantasy being more exciting than mundane fact- until I came to my senses.

[guest7363]

Justice, to my eternal shame, that's exactly what I did when I first joined. I picked up on all the conspiracy theories on offer -I guess it's something about fantasy being more exciting than mundane fact- until I came to my senses.

We have all been there Jane, but when you have Sussed it out there's no way back.

[Roch]

The logs pertaining to the male and female bodies being found and the resultant actions were withheld.  The fact that multiple, uniform statements were typed up regarding Collins' alleged mistake, does not in itself adequately portray the information that appears in the withheld logs. 

[Caroline]

   The message logs were withheld and were only obtained after the second appeal. As I remember they were only obtained by the defence after a mistake by EP. I believe EP released the first page of a fourteen page log, that had previously been withheld, on the reverse side of some other document that they were disclosing.
    Were the message logs read from and discussed in court?
     Had they been so, it is difficult to believe that the pathetic excuses given since for these anomalies, would have been bought by the jury.
     But we all know really that this is the very reason for the withholding of the message logs.

They were NOT withheld - here is the judge discussing Bonnett's log and he asking for it to be shown to the jury. I don't know why you keep ignoring this!

[Roch]

Justice, to my eternal shame, that's exactly what I did when I first joined. I picked up on all the conspiracy theories on offer -I guess it's something about fantasy being more exciting than mundane fact- until I came to my senses.

We have all been there Jane, but when you have Sussed it out there's no way back.

What you've actually done is to lead yourselves up a blind alley - from which you refuse to return. 

as for conspiracy theories - an easy tag to use to dismiss things.  You are going to be in for a shock!

[guest2181]

What you've actually done is to lead yourselves up a blind alley - from which you refuse to return. 

as for conspiracy theories - an easy tag to use to dismiss things.  You are going to be in for a shock!

Roch, you're actually starting to come across a little on the rude side, maybe you should tone it down and show some respect to other members of the forum, regardless of their views on the case?