Reason to believe cops shot Sheila, and how her blood ended up inside Silencer!

[mike tesko]

How did the rifle get from its position at the first floor box room window after 7.15am onto and into the possession of Sheila's body upstairs on the bedroom floor any time after 8.10am, considering that between 7.35am and 8.10am, Sheila's body was known to have been present in the kitchen along with and in addition to Neville Bambers body also being in the kitchen, with only a further three bodies upstairs in the bedrooms by 8.10am?

[mike tesko]

How did the rifle get from its position at the first floor box room window after 7.15am onto and into the possession of Sheila's body upstairs on the bedroom floor any time after 8.10am, considering that between 7.35am and 8.10am, Sheila's body was known to have been present in the kitchen along with and in addition to Neville Bambers body also being in the kitchen, with only a further three bodies upstairs in the bedrooms by 8.10am?

The fourth body (Sheila's) did not arrive upstairs until after 8.10am!

[mike tesko]

The fourth body (Sheila's) did not arrive upstairs until after 8.10am!

Police did not carry Sheila's body from the kitchen to the main bedroom, she made her own way there! She was not dead at 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am as first thought downstairs in the kitchen! Dead females can't make their own way from a kitchen downstairs, to a bedroom upstairs!

[mike tesko]

Police did not carry Sheila's body from the kitchen to the main bedroom, she made her own way there! She was not dead at 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am as first thought downstairs in the kitchen! Dead females can't make their own way from a kitchen downstairs, to a bedroom upstairs!

The fact that Sheila's body was reported dead in the kitchen (7.35am, 7.37am, and 7.38am), before her body ended up in the main bedroom upstairs after 8.10am, establishes beyond doubt that Jeremy Bamber could not possibly have shot her a second time upstairs in the bedroom with the rifle from the box room window and he could not have unscrewed the silencer from the rifles barrel with Sheila's unique blood inside it, and hidden the said silencer in a different part of the downstairs part of the farmhouse, simply because he had no opportunity to do so any time after 7.15am that morning with the rifle not with Sheila's body in the kitchen, and not in the possession of Sheila's body upstairs on the main bedroom floor all at one and the same time!

Impossible for the rifle at the box room window by 7.15am, and for the same rifle to be downstairs in the kitchen, or upstairs on the bedroom floor, at one and the same time!

[mike tesko]

The fact that Jeremy Bamber ended up getting convicted of his sister's murder based upon a stack of false argument and supposition tells it's own story! The police, prosecutions case had to have been a grossly dishonest one with an ulterior motive!

[mike tesko]

The fact that Jeremy Bamber ended up getting convicted of his sister's murder based upon a stack of false argument and supposition tells it's own story! The police, prosecutions case had to have been a grossly dishonest one with an ulterior motive!

That motive appears to have included the fact that Essex police deliberately sought to conceal the true circumstances surrounding the death of Sheila Caffell by reference to her assumed death downstairs in the kitchen, and upstairs with her body on top of the bed, because the TFG, and senior officers did not want the public at large to know how incompetent the police had been in the handling of this case, from start to finish! I disagree with any suggestion that police were well within their rights to shoot an unarmed Sheila in the kitchen, acting under a truce of white flag! You can't go around shooting dead an unarmed person acting on a truce of white flag a person who has shown the rifle at a first floor box room window, and made her way downstairs into the kitchen intending to surrender, to give herself up as it were, only to be shot and left for dead, on the basis that police were well within their rights to shoot her dead in any event? Sorry, but in those circumstances cops were not justified in shooting her dead either in the kitchen where her body remained 7.35am until 8.10am, or later after her body arrived upstairs in the main bedroom after 8.10am that same morning, when the anshuzt rifle was brought from the box room window to Sheila's body so that senior officers could perform 'informatives' using the said rifle as a potential source for the original shooting of her downstairs in the kitchen earlier, to be explained!

[mike tesko]

When police adopt the 'informatives' approach in any investigation, they are deliberately seeking to create alternative explanations for why something happenned, not necessarily the real reason or cause why something may have happenned!

[mike tesko]

When police adopt the 'informatives' approach in any investigation, they are deliberately seeking to create alternative explanations for why something happenned, not necessarily the real reason or cause why something may have happenned!

That's why they brought the anshuzt rifle with its silencer attached from the first floor box room window to Sheila's body on the main bedroom floor to see if it was possible to argue that the first shot inflicted across Sheila's neck in the kitchen could have been fired by it, even though it wasn't...

[maggie]

Hi All

Have removed the Sports... Relegation chat to Off Topic....

As usual have moved the personal posts to Hidden Threads.

To make it clear to all, Caroline does all the IT work on the forum. 

This means she updates and keeps it running smoothly on a day to day and week to week basis which avoids the crashes which used to happen quite often, as long serving members will remember.   

When she is using her status as Admin IT she uses a different account known as Zoso.  She uses a different account because this makes the whole Admin IT issue easier for her and ngb1066 to deal with. 

Hope the above is clear to all forum members.  As with all Admin, moderating etc she gives up her own time to perform these necessary tasks and I'm sure you all appreciate her input.

[Jane]

Hi All

Have removed the Sports... Relegation chat to Off Topic....

As usual have moved the personal posts to Hidden Threads.

To make it clear to all, Caroline does all the IT work on the forum. 

This means she updates and keeps it running smoothly on a day to day and week to week basis which avoids the crashes which used to happen quite often, as long serving members will remember.   

When she is using her status as Admin IT she uses a different account known as Zoso.  She uses a different account because this makes the whole Admin IT issue easier for her and ngb1066 to deal with. 

Hope the above is clear to all forum members.  As with all Admin, moderating etc she gives up her own time to perform these necessary tasks and I'm sure you all appreciate her input.

Think there was only one person here who questioned it, Maggie.

[maggie]

Think there was only one person here who questioned it, Maggie.

Just wanted to clarify as we have some new posters who may not be clear about it and I do think people should remember that the forum couldn't run without IT updating etc.

[lookout]

Think there was only one person here who questioned it, Maggie.

Why do you have to say that ?

[Jane]

Just wanted to clarify as we have some new posters who may not be clear about it and I do think people should remember that the forum couldn't run without IT updating etc.

Of course 

[Caroline]

Hi All

Have removed the Sports... Relegation chat to Off Topic....

As usual have moved the personal posts to Hidden Threads.

To make it clear to all, Caroline does all the IT work on the forum. 

This means she updates and keeps it running smoothly on a day to day and week to week basis which avoids the crashes which used to happen quite often, as long serving members will remember.   

When she is using her status as Admin IT she uses a different account known as Zoso.  She uses a different account because this makes the whole Admin IT issue easier for her and ngb1066 to deal with. 

Hope the above is clear to all forum members.  As with all Admin, moderating etc she gives up her own time to perform these necessary tasks and I'm sure you all appreciate her input.

Thanks Maggie 

[guest7363]

One the first point - I would argue that it is compelling.  My suggestion you would ruminate is based upon your current stance - which is entrenched.

If the police shot Sheila as suggested and staged her body, why didn't they stage her body in the kitchen?  Because they had made the mistake of identifying one dead female for a male etc in the kitchen, it would have been a lot easier to simply stage Sheila in the kitchen job done?  If as suggested police moved evidence about i.e. Bullet casing rifles, Sheila from off the bed etc anything else they wanted to cover up would have been easy

The problem for any release for Bamber, has to be the silencer issue, if Sheila's blood is inside the silencer Sheila could not have shot and killed herself and put the silencer back inside the cupboard.  So defence was, we have the relatives to blame for falsifying the silencer and people saying the silencer was never used, to now saying the silencer was used and it had Sheila's blood in it and police put the silencer in the cupboard. Bamber himself knows this never happened he was outside and informed at 8.15 am all his family had been found dead, so the police could not have killed and shot Sheila twice and staged her body, what would be the odds of Sheila getting shot down stairs with one rifle wrestling with police and getting shot in the throat, (what was she doing when the police looked through the window when they said one dead female, was she pretending to be dead, then jumped up and wrestled the police?) then the police shoot her in the throat, leave her for dead, she jumps up and runs upstairs lays on the bed, gets shot again with a different rifle and in a short time they decide there and then to say and stage a suicide.  It never happened, so if the silencer was used and Sheila's blood was in it, right DOWN to the fifth baffle plate, not just on that ONE baffle plate, possibly DOWN to the sixth and seventh baffle plate, with Sheila's blood inside (like Mike said) possibly a mixture of Nevilles and June's in as well (making it harder for anyone to plant all three in the silencer)  Whats the odds of the police accidentally shooting someone twice with two different rifles and covering it up and no one saying Zilch?

Not very well put but I'm no good with comprehension.