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Offline Adam

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #480 on: April 18, 2017, 01:52:PM »
Adam some suicide victims prefer to meet their maker clean and often they shower can you not remember the story Patti told us about her Aunt who committed suicide she went to great lengths with her appearance and clothing.

Being found bare footed in her nightie is not going to great lenghts. It's more an appearance of someone who had just got out of bed.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #481 on: April 18, 2017, 02:04:PM »
One? Did they forget to tell this individual to 'tow the line'  ;)

I think another officer mentioned the rifle being beside her.  Not sure if that was Miller or one of the TFG.  Just to clarify, the TFG would have been the first officers to view Sheila's crime scene in the bedroom.  That is the context of these complaints.  I'm not sure whether they were shown photos of the crime scene at a debriefing session and this is were the concerns arose - or whether they viewed the crime scene more than once and this is how the concerns arose. 

Can you please explain to the idiot one here what I'm getting at - as he clearly doesn't understand (I had the misfortune of seeing on of his posts)  :))
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #482 on: April 18, 2017, 02:23:PM »
Being found bare footed in her nightie is not going to great lenghts. It's more an appearance of someone who had just got out of bed.

Adam do you think a young lady would wear a nightie like that the nightie is more befitting to a lady of June's age :)

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #483 on: April 18, 2017, 02:30:PM »
I must say when I found my birth mother, granted she didn't want to know me it was one of the most upsetting times in my life and I had a lot of conflicting emotions, and was very up and down, don't forget Sheila had also had a miscarriage and blamed herself, another trying time for a woman, she may of felt her remaining children she was going to lose, her parents didn't understand her and the rejection from Colin after the rejection at birth would of severely impacted her self worth, couple this with a severe mental problem and mind altering drugs, it's a recipe for disaster. The most sane of minds would probably of found this difficult to deal with let alone a paranoid schizophrenic.

Sheila wasn't rejected by her birth mother - far from it. She has miscarried more than six years previous. What rejection from Colin? What 'mind altering dugs'? If you're talking about her medication, it was doing what it was supposed to do.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #484 on: April 18, 2017, 02:35:PM »
Adam do you think a young lady would wear a nightie like that the nightie is more befitting to a lady of June's age :)

Are you saying that after killing June, Sheila had a shower and then put on one of June's spare nighties ?
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #485 on: April 18, 2017, 02:38:PM »
I think another officer mentioned the rifle being beside her.  Not sure if that was Miller or one of the TFG.  Just to clarify, the TFG would have been the first officers to view Sheila's crime scene in the bedroom.  That is the context of these complaints.  I'm not sure whether they were shown photos of the crime scene at a debriefing session and this is were the concerns arose - or whether they viewed the crime scene more than once and this is how the concerns arose. 

Can you please explain to the idiot one here what I'm getting at - as he clearly doesn't understand (I had the misfortune of seeing on of his posts)  :))

Can you provide a source that one of the police officers saw Sheila without a rifle (2nd request).

I don't recall you ever supplying sources to you're long posts. Just saying you're 'not sure if it was Miller' is not enough.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #486 on: April 18, 2017, 02:43:PM »
Sheila wasn't rejected by her birth mother - far from it. She has miscarried more than six years previous. What rejection from Colin? What 'mind altering dugs'? If you're talking about her medication, it was doing what it was supposed to do.
Why was she adopted then and not kept? The rejection from Colin where he had a new girlfriend and told her he wasn't getting back with her!! The mind altering drugs meaning haloperidol the ones that altered her mind to the point she had no interest in anything????

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #487 on: April 18, 2017, 02:48:PM »
Why was she adopted then and not kept? The rejection from Colin where he had a new girlfriend and told her he wasn't getting back with her!! The mind altering drugs meaning haloperidol the ones that altered her mind to the point she had no interest in anything????

Rejection by a man ? It happens & is called life.

She certainly was not rejected by Nevill & June. Who were paying for a London flat, treatment & other expences. But a bit of a mistakes inviting her over for a free summer holiday at WHF though.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #488 on: April 18, 2017, 02:59:PM »
Why was she adopted then and not kept? The rejection from Colin where he had a new girlfriend and told her he wasn't getting back with her!! The mind altering drugs meaning haloperidol the ones that altered her mind to the point she had no interest in anything????


The way single mothers were viewed in 1958 was very different from now. Back then, having a child out of wedlock was seen a a disgrace and bringing shame on a good family. Christine's very middle class parents arranged for her to give birth in a private clinic. She MAY have had -or felt she had- no choice. Equally, she may have voluntarily relinquished her baby, hoping to give her a better life. She and Colin had been divorced almost 6 years so I doubt that she suddenly felt rejected. Her autopsy revealed that the only drug present in her system -of any significance- was Haloperidol.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #489 on: April 18, 2017, 03:33:PM »
And a trace of cannabis,which would have had to have been in her system for nigh-on 6 weeks,the length of time it remains in the system,so withdrawal symptoms of this would also have featured. Maybe she'd wanted her father to open up the safe where there'd been a supply of it ??

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #490 on: April 18, 2017, 03:37:PM »
While AE was busy scrutinising Jeremy's dilated pupils,was she also aware that Sheila had been a cannabis smoker too ?

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #491 on: April 18, 2017, 03:50:PM »
Latterly,Sheila had been smoking heavily------evidence by her stained fingers. If her cannabis smoking had increased,then her withdrawal symptoms would have been chronic not to say manic as well.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #492 on: April 18, 2017, 03:52:PM »
For 'the stooge'.  I cant 100% avoid your posts - as I can see them when I'm not logged in.  There is no quick-fix I'm afraid.  Though I can think of one particular quick-fix that I have already suggested.  BTW - which rock are you going to crawl under when the truth comes out?  I cant imagine we'll see much of you on here - as you will no longer have a purpose or role.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #493 on: April 18, 2017, 03:55:PM »
Latterly,Sheila had been smoking heavily------evidence by her stained fingers. If her cannabis smoking had increased,then her withdrawal symptoms would have been chronic not to say manic as well.

But of course, there's NO evidence, other than that TRACE which could have been in her system 6 weeks, that she was a heavy cannabis user.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #494 on: April 18, 2017, 04:08:PM »
The theory of the cannabis in the safe came from when Roland Pargeter was helping on the farm,Neville had caught him smoking it,so took it off him and sent him packing.
" Roly " as he was known, hadn't believed that Jeremy had murdered his family,and supported him until he left London to stay in Ibiza. Like Sheila,he'd only been married for 3 years before divorcing his wife. I think his ex-wife and child live abroad somewhere.