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Offline Roch

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #465 on: April 18, 2017, 11:49:AM »
Then Factor in the fact she was found inside the farm (locked from the inside) with the gun in her arms. Everyone else shot with excessive overkill (typical of a psychotic shooter) With no credible evidence to indicate this was staged. No evidence that Jeremy has the forensic knowledge to stage the crime in such a convincing fashion. Followed by evidence showing Sheila died while Jeremy was outside with the police.

More or less sums it all up.

There is evidence she was staged - because TFG members expressed serious, collective concerns to their superiors that body / bible / gun had been moved from their original positions witnessed by TFG. 

The concerns led to a question and answer session.  The TFG did what they could to complain - but were effectively 'slapped down'.  Which ties in with the info given in the opinion on here, regarding police culture at that time.   

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #466 on: April 18, 2017, 11:57:AM »
There is evidence she was staged - because TFG members expressed serious, collective concerns to their superiors that body / bible / gun had been moved from their original positions witnessed by TFG. 

The concerns led to a question and answer session.  The TFG did what they could to complain - but were effectively 'slapped down'.  Which ties in with the info given in the opinion on here, regarding police culture at that time.   

Police disturbing the scene is not evidence of a murder made to look like a suicide. The blood running down her dress shows she was sitting upwards while the shots were fired.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #467 on: April 18, 2017, 12:02:PM »
If Sheila had pre planned the massacre, she wouldn't be bare footed in a nightie. She had to walk around a big house & perhaps overcome resistance. 

Nevill wouldn't wake. If he did, there would be a life or death struggle before he had the chance to make any phone calls.  Sheila would attempt to kill him straight away as she had already made up her mind.





Day clothes while shooting, shower/nightdress after,and because of the state of the showerhead and Sheila having been a tall girl,that's what would have happened.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #468 on: April 18, 2017, 12:07:PM »




Day clothes while shooting, shower/nightdress after,and because of the state of the showerhead and Sheila having been a tall girl,that's what would have happened.

Oh yes, I forgot. Sheila had a shower after the massacre.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #469 on: April 18, 2017, 12:31:PM »
Oh yes, I forgot. Sheila had a shower after the massacre.




Well you would shower,wouldn't you,as no way on earth would she have remained completely blood-free after killing two adults ? 

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #470 on: April 18, 2017, 01:12:PM »
Police disturbing the scene is not evidence of a murder made to look like a suicide. The blood running down her dress shows she was sitting upwards while the shots were fired.

It is evidence of police tampering with the crime scene prior to the official photography.  One TFG officer who viewed Sheila's body had 'no recollection of a gun'.  When you consider the position of the gun atop her body in the crime scene photos - that is a staggering observation. 

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #471 on: April 18, 2017, 01:14:PM »



Well you would shower,wouldn't you,as no way on earth would she have remained completely blood-free after killing two adults ?

That is true. Why would Sheila care if she was going to kill herself ?
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #472 on: April 18, 2017, 01:17:PM »



Well you would shower,wouldn't you,as no way on earth would she have remained completely blood-free after killing two adults ?
Exactly  ;)

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #473 on: April 18, 2017, 01:21:PM »



Well you would shower,wouldn't you,as no way on earth would she have remained completely blood-free after killing two adults ?

Ha, ha!  ;D ;)
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #474 on: April 18, 2017, 01:22:PM »
It is evidence of police tampering with the crime scene prior to the official photography.  One TFG officer who viewed Sheila's body had 'no recollection of a gun'.  When you consider the position of the gun atop her body in the crime scene photos - that is a staggering observation.

Can you supply the source for this ?
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #475 on: April 18, 2017, 01:29:PM »
It is evidence of police tampering with the crime scene prior to the official photography.  One TFG officer who viewed Sheila's body had 'no recollection of a gun'.  When you consider the position of the gun atop her body in the crime scene photos - that is a staggering observation.

One? Did they forget to tell this individual to 'tow the line'  ;)
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #476 on: April 18, 2017, 01:34:PM »
Not sure what Roch is implying by claiming one police officer said he saw Sheila without the rifle across her.

I can only assume he's saying the police shot her with the murder weapon. Twice.

A more plausible explanation is the police officer saw Sheila after the photos had been taken of her & after the rifle had been taken off.

All will become clearer when Roch posts the source.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #477 on: April 18, 2017, 01:41:PM »
Perhaps being at the farm (where she was less happy) and around her mam (with her religiosity etc); and the rejection by Colin; and the recent contact with her birth mother; and the reduction in her anti-psychotic; and fact there were farm weapons - became a lethal combination regarding her mental health.  Factor in an added conversation about extra assistance for the twins etc (which took place at the farm - not in London).

 I must say when I found my birth mother, granted she didn't want to know me it was one of the most upsetting times in my life and I had a lot of conflicting emotions, and was very up and down, don't forget Sheila had also had a miscarriage and blamed herself, another trying time for a woman, she may of felt her remaining children she was going to lose, her parents didn't understand her and the rejection from Colin after the rejection at birth would of severely impacted her self worth, couple this with a severe mental problem and mind altering drugs, it's a recipe for disaster. The most sane of minds would probably of found this difficult to deal with let alone a paranoid schizophrenic.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #478 on: April 18, 2017, 01:48:PM »
That is true. Why would Sheila care if she was going to kill herself ?

Adam some suicide victims prefer to meet their maker clean and often they shower can you not remember the story Patti told us about her Aunt who committed suicide she went to great lengths with her appearance and clothing.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #479 on: April 18, 2017, 01:50:PM »



Well you would shower,wouldn't you,as no way on earth would she have remained completely blood-free after killing two adults ?

Hello lookout some posters think this is funny but I believe she did shower after the murders.