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Offline Jane

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #435 on: April 17, 2017, 08:15:PM »
She was either under sedated or over sedated you can't have it both ways x

Exactly Lucy. And they can't have the behaviours caused by both states going on at the same time.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #436 on: April 17, 2017, 08:17:PM »
Exactly Lucy. And they can't have the behaviours caused by both states going on at the same time.
So which was it Jane? This is where it's so conflicting and confusing?.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #437 on: April 17, 2017, 08:17:PM »
She was either under sedated or over sedated you can't have it both ways x





Neither one way or 'other really,but drugs affect each individual in a different way. Sheila would have had enough angst inside her to have done what she did,mark my word.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #438 on: April 17, 2017, 08:20:PM »
She was either under sedated or over sedated you can't have it both ways x





Neither one way or t'other really,but drugs affect each individual in a different way. Sheila would have had enough angst inside her to have done what she did,mark my word.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #439 on: April 17, 2017, 08:26:PM »




Neither one way or t'other really,but drugs affect each individual in a different way. Sheila would have had enough angst inside her to have done what she did,mark my word.

I believe that to,

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #440 on: April 17, 2017, 08:26:PM »
So which was it Jane? This is where it's so conflicting and confusing?.

Ya pays ya money, Lucy. Ya takes ya choice. Do you want to believe that Sheila deliberately asked to have her meds reduced because she planned, at that early stage, to kill her entire family. OR do you want to believe what all her friends said of her during her last fortnight ie she was unwashed, her hair was dirty, her clothes were dirty and she ignored her children. Colin attests to her silence all the way to WHF. Jeremy say she was unresponsive. June expresses concern about her behaviour.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #441 on: April 17, 2017, 08:29:PM »
Ya pays ya money, Lucy. Ya takes ya choice. Do you want to believe that Sheila deliberately asked to have her meds reduced because she planned, at that early stage, to kill her entire family. OR do you want to believe what all her friends said of her during her last fortnight ie she was unwashed, her hair was dirty, her clothes were dirty and she ignored her children. Colin attests to her silence all the way to WHF. Jeremy say she was unresponsive. June expresses concern about her behaviour.
No I don't believe she pre planned it, she didn't ignore the children as she was out with them alone earlier that day, and had been shopping with them and June, June I agree expresses great concern, what do you make of the remark at the table out of the blue that "all people are evil and need to be killed?"

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #442 on: April 17, 2017, 08:36:PM »
No I don't believe she pre planned it, she didn't ignore the children as she was out with them alone earlier that day, and had been shopping with them and June, June I agree expresses great concern, what do you make of the remark at the table out of the blue that "all people are evil and need to be killed?"
That she wanted attention and due to her looks having faded was finding it difficult to get. The removal of the bedroom telephone, if not pre-planned was certainly fortuitous, and I have my suspicions that a hand held mobile telephone can be broken by an electric storm. In any case there was no explanation for the  removal of the sights on the gun, which was primed for murder.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #443 on: April 17, 2017, 08:39:PM »
That she wanted attention and due to her looks having faded was finding it difficult to get. The removal of the bedroom telephone, if not pre-planned was certainly fortuitous, and I have my suspicions that a hand held mobile telephone can be broken by an electric storm. In any case there was no explanation for the  removal of the sights on the gun, which was primed for murder.
Jeremy said they never used the sights on it, the bedroom telephone is strange, would you not
Notice if your bedroom telephone was missing? I'm more inclined to believe it had been removed due to the others being fixed and relocated then just put in the study by Neville.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #444 on: April 17, 2017, 08:48:PM »
No I don't believe she pre planned it, she didn't ignore the children as she was out with them alone earlier that day, and had been shopping with them and June, June I agree expresses great concern, what do you make of the remark at the table out of the blue that "all people are evil and need to be killed?"

I believe the children went to see Jeremy in the tractor. I assume she went with them. Yes, she went shopping with June. She allegedly took scant notice of what was happening around her and her make up was skewed. We're told that the remark re people being evil came out of the blue, but it's difficult to get a handle on the exact words. They tend to change with the telling. I find it strange that no one asked her to explain. That's the trouble with 'sound bites'. They're simply THERE.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #445 on: April 17, 2017, 08:50:PM »
Jeremy said they never used the sights on it, the bedroom telephone is strange, would you not
Notice if your bedroom telephone was missing? I'm more inclined to believe it had been removed due to the others being fixed and relocated then just put in the study by Neville.

Anthony Pargeter saw the sights on it shortly before the murders. Jeremy isn't really a good source for backing up information.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #446 on: April 17, 2017, 08:55:PM »
Anthony Pargeter saw the sights on it shortly before the murders. Jeremy isn't really a good source for backing up information.





Neither was Pargeter.!!

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #447 on: April 17, 2017, 08:57:PM »
Anthony Pargeter saw the sights on it shortly before the murders. Jeremy isn't really a good source for backing up information.
And pargeter was? Where were the sights when the house was searched?

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #448 on: April 17, 2017, 08:58:PM »
The same man,AP, sued his own family because they were fleecing him.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #449 on: April 17, 2017, 08:58:PM »





That's okay Lucy.All you can do is laugh really. It just makes a mockery of those concerned though. :o

OMG! You're the most contradictory person on the forum. All it take is a little homework to learn about the drug. Many of us back then took what was written here as reliable information from people who were seeking the truth. Turns out that unless the source is independent and an official document, much of what is claimed here is BS. Looking through old posts and throwing them up in order to goad, is ridiculous, given that changing sides mean a re-evaluation and as one obtains more knowledge on a subject old assumptions are are also re-evaluated. Perhaps we can drag up some of your contradictions?
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