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Offline Lucy522

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #420 on: April 17, 2017, 07:18:PM »
I'm sure she wasn't just on haloperidol? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Clearly not, she was trying to protect her, which is what mothers do, she was either to over sedated to the point she couldn't get off the sofa OR hadnt taken her meds (which had been halved) which left her prone to violent outbursts, it can't be both ways? Which one was it?

Lucy, the drug which over sedated her was Haloperidol which was administered by injection. She took other drugs orally to counter act the side effects of Haloperidol. Presumably once the dose of Haloperidol was halved, so, too, were its side effects, so she may not have felt the need to take the oral meds.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #422 on: April 17, 2017, 07:24:PM »
I'm sure she wasn't just on haloperidol? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Her anti-psych drug was haloperidol. Unless someone can produce an official document the electrician/gas man, is just a myth.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #423 on: April 17, 2017, 07:31:PM »
Why would a random person bring that up caroline? How would they know anything about medication Sheila may or may not be taking? She was a stranger. Seems June felt the need to condone her behaviour somewhat. Maybe she hadn't taken it, how was Sheila outside screaming and shouting when she was so "over sedated" she couldn't get off the sofa?

Lucy, we have to put this incident in the same place as all the other BS. We KNOW she was over sedated. Uncommunicative and lethargic. Taking no interest in helping June or caring for the children. There are those who wish her to be a screaming Banshee and this story, like others, has probably been concocted to portray her as such.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #424 on: April 17, 2017, 07:37:PM »
Why would a random person bring that up caroline? How would they know anything about medication Sheila may or may not be taking? She was a stranger. Seems June felt the need to condone her behaviour somewhat. Maybe she hadn't taken it, how was Sheila outside screaming and shouting when she was so "over sedated" she couldn't get off the sofa?

I am saying I don't believe there was a random person ie. no electrician called that day, just like the monastery - it didn't happen.
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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #425 on: April 17, 2017, 07:50:PM »
Take you own advice!

"Once again the phrase

'I don't believe'

So just say you don't know

You do or you dont"



Yes. Now you're getting the hang of it.  ;D


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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #426 on: April 17, 2017, 07:55:PM »
Yes. Now you're getting the hang of it.  ;D



Of what?
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Clearly not, she was trying to protect her, which is what mothers do, she was either to over sedated to the point she couldn't get off the sofa OR hadnt taken her meds (which had been halved) which left her prone to violent outbursts, it can't be both ways? Which one was it?




Sheila was a young woman and would have by-passed the calming effects of her medication because it was nearing the end of its potency as she'd been nearly due for another injection,a week away,and because it had been halved to what she'd been used to it wouldn't have had the same doping effect anyway. It would have if she'd been June's age.
I believe this has all been spelled out in minute detail for the " non-believers " on another forum,but they still refuse to believe that she could still have outbursts.

Sheila,in her own way was trying to get back control of her life rather than drugs taking over and by her asking for a reduction she'd felt that she was getting back on track for her intentions on what was about to follow before her children went away with Colin and his girlfriend and her under sufference staying at WHF before their return.

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #428 on: April 17, 2017, 07:57:PM »
Lucy, we have to put this incident in the same place as all the other BS. We KNOW she was over sedated. Uncommunicative and lethargic.

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I'm really not certain what you see as being "heavily medicated" Sheila, if anything was UNDER medicated.


Most of us are now fully cognisant of the dangers of playing "Russian Roulette" with anti psychotic drugs which need to be very carefully monitored. Whilst back in 1985 the general public were ignorant of this fact, it's my contention that the "experts" weren't. Might it therefore have given jurors some pause for thought had they known what effect the sudden HALVING of this drug could have on a person .



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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #429 on: April 17, 2017, 08:01:PM »
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David I'm confused, are you taking the p out of what I'm saying, what are your thoughts?

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #430 on: April 17, 2017, 08:03:PM »
Lucy,see the year of those posts.Contradictory or what ?

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #431 on: April 17, 2017, 08:05:PM »
Lucy,see the year of those posts.Contradictory or what ?
Oh I see now, sorry I've had a long day lol thanks lookout  :o

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #432 on: April 17, 2017, 08:10:PM »
Oh I see now, sorry I've had a long day lol thanks lookout  :o






That's okay Lucy.All you can do is laugh really. It just makes a mockery of those concerned though. :o

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #433 on: April 17, 2017, 08:10:PM »
Well, we now apparently have Sheila asking to have her drugs reduced because she's already planning to slaughter her boys and parents. Convenient then that she should have a psychotic episode just as she's about to put the plan into action, don't you think?

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Re: Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions
« Reply #434 on: April 17, 2017, 08:11:PM »





That's okay Lucy.All you can do is laugh really. It just makes a mockery of those concerned though. :o
She was either under sedated or over sedated you can't have it both ways x