Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions

[Adam]

And of course his story of the could be true. Sheila could have seen the gun on the table
The fact that June told Pam that Sheila had gone to bed may not have been true, after all her bhed had not been slept in.

How do you know Sheila's bed had not been slept in ?

Why would it not be true that Sheila had gone to bed if June told PB this ?

If Sheila did not go to bed, what was she doing between 10pm - 3am. And why was she found bare footed in a nightdress ?

[Lucy522]

How do you know Sheila's bed had not been slept in ?

Why would it not be true that Sheila had gone to bed if June told PB this ?

If Sheila did not go to bed, what was she doing between 10pm - 3am. And why was she found bare footed in a nightdress ?

The photos look like a bed that had not been slept in, Sheila could of gone upstairs rendering June to believe she had retired for the night, we don't know what she was doing, we don't know what time this massacre was committed, it could of been midnight!

[Adam]

The photos look like a bed that had not been slept in, Sheila could of gone upstairs rendering June to believe she had retired for the night, we don't know what she was doing, we don't know what time this massacre was committed, it could of been midnight!

Well Nevill was awake at 3.10am. As he phoned Bamber. So the massacre was committed afterwards.

So Sheila stayed awake, bare footed & in her nightdress between 10pm - 3.10am. Although under sedation & on Haloperidol.

[Lucy522]

Well Nevill was awake at 3.10am. As he phoned Bamber. So the massacre was committed afterwards.

So Sheila stayed awake, bare footed & in her nightdress between 10pm - 3.10am. Although under sedation & on Haloperidol.

Maybe she did, I've sat in my nightwear many times until the early hours reading etc as I couldn't sleep, she was either on sedation OR haleperidol or was she on more than haloperidol?

[Roch]

Didn't David and Anthony admit in Taff Jones' office that Sheila could have committed the crimes, effectively showing that they were ignorant of her illness after all.

How very convenient that Ann couldn't remember what was discussed, when she relayed this point to COLP.

They can go on telly and corroborate the prosecution's case under Ainsley - but they cant remember the police's case regarding Sheila.

[Steve_uk]

Maybe she did, I've sat in my nightwear many times until the early hours reading etc as I couldn't sleep, she was either on sedation OR haleperidol or was she on more than haloperidol?

She was prescribed the anti-psychotic drug Stelazine during her initial stay at St. Andrew's in 1983. Upon her readmission in March 1985 she took Anafranil, an anti-depressant, Haloperidol, which I'm assuming is another anti-psychotic drug but stronger than Stelazine (Lookout will correct me here if I err) and Procyclidine to counteract the side-effects such as tremors.

[Steve_uk]

How very convenient that Ann couldn't remember what was discussed, when she relayed this point to COLP.

They can go on telly and corroborate the prosecution's case under Ainsley - but they cant remember the police's case regarding Sheila.

But Sheila wasn't on trial-Jeremy was. The concomitant of the telephone call lie was that it gave him knowledge of the crimes at a very early stage. Was he dithering so that he had to telephone Julie in the middle of the night or was it confirmation to her that he had executed his evil plan?

[Jane]

Maybe she did, I've sat in my nightwear many times until the early hours reading etc as I couldn't sleep, she was either on sedation OR haleperidol or was she on more than haloperidol?

Whilst Adam differentiates between being sedated and being on Haloperidol, it's actually the Haloperidol which is the sedative. She stopped taking the (oral) meds which countered the side effects of Haloperidol because with the reduced dosage of it, presumably the side effects weren't as pronounced.

[Lucy522]

Whilst Adam differentiates between being sedated and being on Haloperidol, it's actually the Haloperidol which is the sedative. She stopped taking the (oral) meds which countered the side effects of Haloperidol because with the reduced dosage of it, presumably the side effects weren't as pronounced.

That's why I was getting confused thanks jane. So she would of been less lethargic?

[Jane]

That's why I was getting confused thanks jane. So she would of been less lethargic?

Less lethargic than what? It's relative, Lucy. Remember, she was still over sedated.

[Lucy522]

Less lethargic than what? It's relative, Lucy. Remember, she was still over sedated.

To what point though? Because some people describe her as normal, others disturbed, was she that up and down?

[Jane]

To what point though? Because some people describe her as normal, others disturbed, was she that up and down?

I'm not convinced that she was. Whilst I don't believe she was as wide as 1 and 10 on the spectrum, I think she may have veered between 2.5 and 5, but neither would make her full joie de vivre.

[nugnug]

if she was uncorditnated and lathragic how come she managed to scare the shit out the gas man.

[Jane]

if she was uncorditnated and lathragic how come she managed to scare the shit out the gas man.

I'm uncertain about the veracity of this story. Do we know when it occurred? Where might the boys have been when this was going on? Do we have a WS from the gentleman in question, or might it be yet another of those stories like the one centred around the Greek Monastery?

[Steve_uk]

It's a fabrication. The gas man came on the Monday morning and saw a typical domestic scene with the boys playing happily.