Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions

[Lucy522]

Hopefully David will supply his 5th scenario attempt of how Sheila committed the massacre. That will give everyone something to debate.

He's been working on it for 4 months & it's got diagrams.

Or you could always supply a scenario. Just saying Bamber is innocent because he may have found moving Sheila a few feet difficult would only result in a one minute debate by a jury.

When did I say that Adam!? Why on earth would he have had to move her?

[Adam]

When did I say that Adam!? Why on earth would he have had to move her?

Because she was in bed. Behind a closed door.  Asleep. Sedated & on Haloperidol.

[lookout]

Which is where she'd shot herself-----------in bed,rifle between her and her mother.

[Lucy522]

Because she was in bed. Behind a closed door.  Asleep. Sedated & on Haloperidol.

Not true

[David1819]

Because she was in bed. Behind a closed door.  Asleep. Sedated & on Haloperidol.

 

[Lucy522]

Great info, considering Sheila already thought "all people wee bad and needed to be killed" and was suicidal just proves people can and do act on this,

[Adam]

Not true

Really ? Tell me more.

[Adam]

What's this got to do with Sheila being -

In bed at 2am.

Asleep at 2am.

Behind a closed door. At 2am.

On Haloperidol. Undisputed.

Under sedation. Undisputed.

[Lucy522]

Really ? Tell me more.

Adam are you saying he dragged her out of bed and she didn't even wake during any of this?

[notsure]

Adam are you saying he dragged her out of bed and she didn't even wake during

[lookout]

 If Sheila had actually nodded off,then wakened,she'd have had the mother of all psychotic attacks after a drug induced sleep. Hallucinations are a FACT after such a slumber,as well as the urge for violent attacks.

[Adam]

Adam are you saying he dragged her out of bed and she didn't even wake during any of this?

There have been numerous threads on how Bamber would get Sheila a few feet.

But if you believe she woke & walked to where she was shot, that is fine.

[lookout]

Sheila was also known not to have slept well during the night as she used to phone her father from her own home,at all hours of the morning and it would have been her most vulnerable time after probably spending most of the daytime sleeping. This is the usual pattern of those who take anti-psychotic or similar drugs.   

[Steve_uk]

I wish the Defence would make up its mind whether Sheila was full of Haloperidol or not! As for the windows, here's the relevant extract from Carol Ann Lee's book:  https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA249&lpg=PA249&dq=DC+Barlow+windows+white+house+farm&source=bl&ots=jPIUL0C9y-&sig=DTyenuXYCy4DpS47E6uQj4bxumA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7qfDq9qjTAhVTsBQKHaMNDZQQ6AEIOjAH#v=onepage&q=DC%20Barlow%20windows%20white%20house%20farm&f=false

[buddy]

But not on his guard with Sheila?  The whole rabbit story is a red herring he could have left the gun hid and loaded anywhere, he could have told Neville he was taking the gun to shoot rabbits and hid it somewhere?

And of course his story of the could be true. Sheila could have seen the gun on the table
The fact that June told Pam that Sheila had gone to bed may not have been true, after all her bhed had not been slept in.