Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions

[Adam]

Yes she could it's not unheard of in suicides

The pathologist said Sheila could not have fired the second shot.

Bamber accepted this when the police interviewed him.

[Roch]

I know, these children didn't even stir during this massacre? Why not? My children would of been up and screaming their heads off (god forbid)

The most likely scenario in fitting with these circs - is that Sheila shot the twins prior to the disturbances involving her parents.

[nugnug]

if she couldent of done it becose of medication why did her husband think she had done it.

[Steve_uk]

Personally I don't see her being totally incapable of doing anything, if this was the case that she could barely get out of bed I would hope June Neville and Colin would of intervened and Been of the view, if she was incapable of looking after herself, it would be potentially dangerous and totally unfair on 2 young boisterous children to be in the care of someone in this state, yes Sheila was on medication, yes it would of affected her somewhat but I don't see any responsible doctor prescribing a drug to a young mother of twins medication that rendered her incapable of doing anything,  even to the point she couldn't hold a conversation.

This was the reality of her condition; she could barely get out of bed. She would save what little energy she had for the twins' weekend visits, but midweek she was a mess and needed her Maida Vale friends to let her know her hair needed washing, her make up needed applying and her body smelt. All stemmed from the Haloperidol, on which she had overdosed if anything, and the tablets she took caused tremors, making it very difficult for her to have chambered a rifle, let alone shot it with any degree of accuracy.

[Lucy522]

All kids are different I guess, but my little one will wake at the flush of a loo also.

We'll never know, but I think that there are scenarios that would fit with the twins being the first victims, there may then never have been an opportunity for one of the adults to check on them.

I personally think it was Neville who took the first shots, he was the greatest threats, maybe he ran downstairs honestly thinking she wouldn't hurt her boys. Whatever happened something was going on in the farm that night, Neville was rude on the phone which was unheard of, Sheila didn't say goodnight on the phone to her aunt. Something was brewing and Jeremy wasn't there.

[Adam]

Lucy I have researched the two shot suicide and it does happen.  Tyler a member here posted an excellent link on this but I cannot find it

The pathologist said Sheila could not have fired the second shot. Bamber accepted this when the police told him. It's in the police interviews.

[guest2181]

Yes she could it's not unheard of in suicides

Indeed, the pathologist Vanesiz states that 8% of gun related suicides he has been involved with had more than a single shot and in Sheilas case, the two shots didn't concern him.

[Jane]

I haven't been able to corroborate this incident. There's evidence from Len Foakes that she appeared normal, but contrary evidence from house painter Michael Horsnell at Vaulty Manor that she had severe mobility problems, as Adam has stated.

I'm always interested to know what others understand as being "normal".

[susan]

The pathologist said Sheila could not have fired the second shot.

Bamber accepted this when the police interviewed him.

Adam could you give me a link for these statements please

[Lucy522]

The pathologist said Sheila could not have fired the second shot.

Bamber accepted this when the police interviewed him.

No he didn't, he said she would of still been alive and had to of been for a time due to the blood pooling in her neck after the first shot

[Adam]

I personally think it was Neville who took the first shots, he was the greatest threats, maybe he ran downstairs honestly thinking she wouldn't hurt her boys. Whatever happened something was going on in the farm that night, Neville was rude on the phone which was unheard of, Sheila didn't say goodnight on the phone to her aunt. Something was brewing and Jeremy wasn't there.

So Nevill was shot by Sheila & then spent 5/10 minutes ringing up Bamber & EP ?

[Steve_uk]

Otherwise.. perhaps her parents would have had no choice but to suggest to her - that needed extra help / assistance with the twins?

But she didn't have day to day control of them-this is what Jeremy didn't know and why his fostering story is preposterous. It was possible June suggested hiring some of the village girls to babysit as had happened in the past, but it just wasn't in any grandparents' remit to take charge of the twins without agreement from Colin, which would not have been forthcoming.

[Lucy522]

No he didn't, he said she would of still been alive and had to of been for a time due to the blood pooling in her neck after the first shot

If bamber shot her why wait a while for the second shot! Why not finish it there and then? Or Sheila could of shot her self and sat there dazed and in tremendous pain and shot herself again to finish it off.

[Adam]

Adam could you give me a link for these statements please

You need to read the police interviews. And also watch the 'Inheritance Killers' video. Both of which I've put on here.

[Lucy522]

The most likely scenario in fitting with these circs - is that Sheila shot the twins prior to the disturbances involving her parents.

This is what I'm leaning towards. There would be no going back after that.