Jeremy's assumptions about his sister's meds and relatives' opinions

[Jane]

I don't think any body likes being called a 'dick' but I will try not to be sensitive.  Maybe everybody should report Adam as being a troll - since he is so keen to report others.

You're as free to put him on ignore, as is he to report to moderators.

[guest2181]

I don't think any body likes being called a 'dick' but I will try not to be sensitive.  Maybe everybody should report Adam as being a troll - since he is so keen to report others.

Maybe you should just chill out and get over it.

I'm sure lots of people find particular members irritating. Adam being annoying is I agree somewhat perpetual.

[Lucy522]

There is no possibility Sheila could have committed the massacre as she was on Haloperidol. It would have probably taken her 5 minutes to walk down the stairs without falling over.

This benefitted Bamber as he knew she would be easy to control later. He had seen her only hours earlier & his & PB's WS's confirm Sheila was unable to physically or mentally function.

If this was the case why was she seen earlier that day skipping along the lane in high spirits with the twins? If she was that incapable of doing anything then why was she left in charge of 2 small children.?

[guest2181]

If this was the case why was she seen earlier that day skipping along the lane in high spirits with the twins? If she was that incapable of doing anything then why was she left in charge of 2 small children.?

Is it not simply the case that those of a guilty view are more willing to see Sheila as lethargic due to her medication, whereas those with an innocent view are more willing to see her as being full of energy and capable.

Maybe the reality is somewhere in between?

[Roch]

Is it not simply the case that those of a guilty view are more willing to see Sheila as lethargic due to her medication, whereas those with an innocent view are more willing to see her as being full of energy and capable.

Maybe the reality is somewhere in between?

Finally, some common sense.

[Adam]

If this was the case why was she seen earlier that day skipping along the lane in high spirits with the twins? If she was that incapable of doing anything then why was she left in charge of 2 small children.?

Skipping along the lane. Have you got a source ?

She went to see Bamber on his tractor. One of the Foakes's saw her & said she was in good spirits.

CC looked after the children & June & Nevill were assisting in looking after the children at WHF.

The WS's of Bamber & PB show Sheila was 'tired', 'non responsive', 'not paying attention', 'easy to control', 'not speaking' & 'going to bed'. Hours before the massacre.

The Haloperidol was having it's nightly effect & it's doubtful anything would wake her.  If she did wake, it would take a big effort to walk down the stairs, let alone carry out a military style massacre. My 'Effects of Haloperidol' thread show this.

[Lucy522]

Finally, some common sense.

Personally I don't see her being totally incapable of doing anything, if this was the case that she could barely get out of bed I would hope June Neville and Colin would of intervened and Been of the view, if she was incapable of looking after herself, it would be potentially dangerous and totally unfair on 2 young boisterous children to be in the care of someone in this state, yes Sheila was on medication, yes it would of affected her somewhat but I don't see any responsible doctor prescribing a drug to a young mother of twins medication that rendered her incapable of doing anything,  even to the point she couldn't hold a conversation.

[Roch]

Personally I don't see her being totally incapable of doing anything, if this was the case that she could barely get out of bed I would hope June Neville and Colin would of intervened and Been of the view, if she was incapable of looking after herself, it would be potentially dangerous and totally unfair on 2 young boisterous children to be in the care of someone in this state, yes Sheila was on medication, yes it would of affected her somewhat but I don't see any responsible doctor prescribing a drug to a young mother of twins medication that rendered her incapable of doing anything,  even to the point she couldn't hold a conversation.

Otherwise.. perhaps her parents would have had no choice but to suggest to her - that needed extra help / assistance with the twins?

[Lucy522]

Skipping along the lane. Have you got a source ?

She went to see Bamber on his tractor. One of the Foakes's saw her & said she was in good spirits.

CC looked after the children & June & Nevill were assisting in looking after the children at WHF.

The WS's of Bamber & PB show Sheila was 'tired', 'non responsive', 'not paying attention', 'easy to control', 'not speaking' & 'going to bed'. Hours before the massacre.

The Haloperidol was having it's nightly effect & it's doubtful anything would wake her.  If she did wake, it would take a big effort to walk down the stairs, let alone carry out a military style massacre.

They weren't assisting, she was on her own with the twins in good spirits at that time, as a mother myself and a person with what I'd like to think of as common sense, if she was that bad she shouldn't of been left unsupervised, If this were me and they way Sheila was described as behaving no way would my parents of left me with my children by myself.

[guest7363]

I don't think any body likes being called a 'dick' but I will try not to be sensitive.  Maybe everybody should report Adam as being a troll - since he is so keen to report others.

Dont worry Roch, he reported me the other day for telling him to p off.  No one takes him series Roch but have to agree he is only here to annoy and like Jane said put him on ignore

[Lucy522]

Otherwise.. perhaps her parents would have had no choice but to suggest to her - that needed extra help / assistance with the twins?

Exactly, I know my parents would of been of that view., as would I if it were my child/grandchildren.

[Roch]

Dont worry Roch, he reported me the other day for telling him to p off.  No one takes him series Roch but have to agree he is only here to annoy and like Jane said put him on ignore

Thanks.  I apologise for overstepping the mark and biting.  I have no proof Adam is one thing or another.  It's just my interpretation of how he comes across. 

[guest2181]

Personally I don't see her being totally incapable of doing anything, if this was the case that she could barely get out of bed I would hope June Neville and Colin would of intervened and Been of the view, if she was incapable of looking after herself, it would be potentially dangerous and totally unfair on 2 young boisterous children to be in the care of someone in this state, yes Sheila was on medication, yes it would of affected her somewhat but I don't see any responsible doctor prescribing a drug to a young mother of twins medication that rendered her incapable of doing anything,  even to the point she couldn't hold a conversation.

One of the conundrums with a guilty JB scenario is how Sheila was seemingly easily coerced to lay down and be shot without a struggle, and if this whole 'framing Sheila' plan was premeditated, how could JB have been so confident that the option to do so would be achievable.

Sheila being in a medicated unresponsive state is suggested to overcome this hurdle.

[Jane]

Is it not simply the case that those of a guilty view are more willing to see Sheila as lethargic due to her medication, whereas those with an innocent view are more willing to see her as being full of energy and capable.

Maybe the reality is somewhere in between?

ABSOLUTELY.................and is the point I've made re Julie in the "Rellies And Retired PO" thread.

[Adam]

Dont worry Roch, he reported me the other day for telling him to p off.  No one takes him series Roch but have to agree he is only here to annoy and like Jane said put him on ignore

I'll report you again  if neccessary.

I don't know if you're a guilter or supporter as you don't create threads & I've never read or responded to you're posts. Apart from last week when you incorrectly said Taff Jones wasn't taken off heading the case.

However if you quote my posts in future I have no option but to read them. Feel free to put me on ignore.