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There are several reasons why Julie identified the twins. Twenty two to be precise.

She could have always have said 'no'. But then she would have been labelled as heartless & unhelpful.
Adam it has always bothered me that Julie knowing the man she shared a bed with was responsible for the bullets in the wee boys heads yet she could go to the morgue and identify them she must be a very hard  young woman or a woman with a morbid curious mind.

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Adam it has always bothered me that Julie knowing the man she shared a bed with was responsible for the bullets in the wee boys heads yet she could go to the morgue and identify them she must be a very hard  young woman or a woman with a morbid curious mind.

Julie never asked to be there on the morning of the massacre. Bamber rang her at 5am telling her 'a police car is coming to pick you up'.

However she was there so might as well try to be helpful.
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There are several reasons why Julie identified the twins. Twenty two to be precise.

She could have always have said 'no'. But then she would have been labelled as heartless & unhelpful.

What was Mugford labelled as then?

Are you actually saying she wasn't heartless
Are you actually saying she wasn't unhelpful
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What was Mugford labelled as then?

Are you actually saying she wasn't heartless
Are you actually saying she wasn't unhelpful

Heartless why? Because she identified the bodies of her boyfriends victims? Not quite as heartless as the killer - the person you keep defending. If Jeremy is innocent, how is she heartless?
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What was Mugford labelled as then?

Are you actually saying she wasn't heartless
Are you actually saying she wasn't unhelpful

She identified the twins. So can't be both 'unhelpful' & 'heartless'. It's one of the other.

You choose.
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Isn't the whole point here - that apparently, she identified them in the full knowledge that her boyfriend (who she was still sleeping with) had either killed them or paid for them to be killed?

What would you do if your partner had paid to have their nephews murdered (after having given you pointers that it would happen) and then you were required to go and view the bodies of their dead nephews with facial bullet injuries?  Continue to sleep with your partner?
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Isn't the whole point here - that apparently, she identified them in the full knowledge that her boyfriend (who she was still sleeping with) had either killed them or paid for them to be killed?

What would you do if your partner had paid to have their nephews murdered (after having given you pointers that it would happen) and then you were required to go and view the bodies of their dead nephews with facial bullet injuries?  Continue to sleep with your partner?

She would have been in a bit of a daze hours after the massacre. Bamber had rang her at 5am saying 'a police car is coming to pick you up'. He then told her MM had carried out the massacre ?

She was asked to identify the twins. And did. Bamber was much too busy talking to the police.

Anyway my former thread has 22 reasons why she did. I've already posted the link on this thread.
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Isn't the whole point here - that apparently, she identified them in the full knowledge that her boyfriend (who she was still sleeping with) had either killed them or paid for them to be killed?

What would you do if your partner had paid to have their nephews murdered (after having given you pointers that it would happen) and then you were required to go and view the bodies of their dead nephews with facial bullet injuries?  Continue to sleep with your partner?

I believe she told police that she hadn't 'slept' with him since the murders.  I really don't think you question is one which can be answered. All any of us do is say what we think -hope- we'd do.

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She would have been in a bit of a daze hours after the massacre. Bamber had rang her at 5am saying 'a police car is coming to pick you up'. He then told her MM had carried out the massacre ?

She was asked to identify the twins. And did. Bamber was much too busy talking to the police.

Anyway my former thread has 22 reasons why she did. I've already posted the link on this thread.

I believe she told police that she hadn't 'slept' with him since the murders.  I really don't think you question is one which can be answered. All any of us do is say what we think -hope- we'd do.

So allegedly, she withdrew her sexual relations from him - but continued to stick with him and party / holiday etc.  Until such time as she had a pang of conscience -and decided to 'do her duty' as an informant - which seemed to miraculously coincide with her relationship ending. 


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I believe she told police that she hadn't 'slept' with him since the murders.  I really don't think you question is one which can be answered. All any of us do is say what we think -hope- we'd do.

Have you got a source for this ?

Bamber was whisking her around England & Amsterdam for a month. Spending his money on her. It's doubtful they were sleeping in separate beds.
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Julie went to the police a month after the massacre. After confiding in 5 people.

What is the problem ?
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I believe she told police that she hadn't 'slept' with him since the murders.  I really don't think you question is one which can be answered. All any of us do is say what we think -hope- we'd do.

So allegedly, she withdrew her sexual relations from him - but continued to stick with him and party / holiday etc.  Until such time as she had a pang of conscience -and decided to 'do her duty' as an informant - which seemed to miraculously coincide with her relationship ending. 


She would have been in a bit of a daze hours after the massacre. Bamber had rang her at 5am saying 'a police car is coming to pick you up'. He then told her MM had carried out the massacre ?

She was asked to identify the twins. And did. Bamber was much too busy talking to the police...............

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Living with and only seeing life as unfolding in terms of black or white surely imposes the most enormous strain on those who follow that tenet. As I previously said, unless/until we're faced with a situation, we can only guess what we'd do.

 I DO think she knew way more than she told in her story, which was probably as much about saving her own skin as anything else. I DO think there was a point at which Julie tried to "keep all the balls in the air" and as a result, probably did things which have come back to haunt her. I can't begin to imagine what she thought the final outcome was going to be. She had no frame of reference for it. On a scale of 1 to 10, we can apply to her, every adjective/noun we can think of and for a FEW seconds they'll be appropriate. However, I suspect the real descriptives, as for most of us, probably lay around the 4-6 area, as the 20 year old tried to sort out the nightmare her life had become.
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Julie went to the police a month after the massacre. After confiding in 5 people.

What is the problem ?

Adam tell me why Julie did not go to the police immediately after the massacre or indeed before then she could have prevented the  murders.  You seem to think she had prior knowledge that JB was going to murder his family and stop making excuses for her every post I read from you about Julie is excuse after excuse.