History of scenarios on how Sheila committed the massacre.

[Adam]

It has been a real mixed bag of scenario's from supporters over the years of how Sheila committed the massacre.

Thank you to Alias, Sherlock, Samson & Holly for you're detailed scenario's.

A special thank you to David who has created 4 amended scenario's & has been creating a fifth new version since last year,  which will include diagrams.

Me & other posters gave our feedback on all of them & will do to David's next one & all other new scenario's.

One thing guilters & the above supporters agree on is Nevill did not call the police.

Mike also gave an account. However Mike's version was a bit short, just saying 'by shooting them'. Hopefully Mike with all his knowledge will re submit soon.

Roch said last week that Sheila 'definately' committed the massacre. However only gave a very brief scenario, upon request. Which was disappointing.  Just saying Sheila 'shot them' & he could 'not explain' the phone calls.

Another irregular poster whose name I have forgotten submitted a scenario this year. However most of it did not match the crime scene.

Other supporters Nugs, Notsure, Gringo, Jackie & Buddy have never got involved in discussing how Sheila committed the massacre. But Lookout is now being more open. Saying Sheila put the silencer on & took it off & Nevill heard upstairs shots but thought Sheila was firing warning shots into the ceiling. Hopefully full scenarios will be forthcoming from these posters.

Former supporters also never submitted a scenario. Which will be a reason why there was a stance change. This does not include Susan who changes stance a lot but did say a few years ago she had an idea of how Sheila committed the massacre. We all look forward to discussing Susan's idea.

Supporters are very willing to discuss the alledged difficulties Bamber would have. So hopefully there will be some more scenarios produced on how Sheila did it. If something plausible is ever produced which matches the universally agreed crime scene,  it can be sent onto the Campaign Team.
 

[Roch]

Roch said last week that Sheila 'definately' committed the massacre. However only gave a very brief scenario, upon request. Which was disappointing.  Just saying Sheila 'shot them' & he could 'not explain' the phone calls.

The police were fully aware of who had committed the massacre from day one.  Any officers who looked closely at the crime scene would have recognised with immediate effect that Sheila was the killer.

This is probably the reason why Bob Miller later expressed 'disgust' at the relatives' insinuations.  Why would Bob Miller inspect the scene, complete with two gunshot wounds to a 'suicide' victim, then come away convinced that Sheila was the killer?  Was he also stubborn like Taff? 

Clearly, the evidence that Sheila was the killer was present within the crime scene, where it was witnessed by many police officers.

Everything else is a red herring I'm afraid.  Jeremy's hair dye, his trip to Amsterdam or St. Tropez or Burnham on Crouch. etc.  Meaningless.

[lookout]

 So technically,the guilters are underestimating the work of EP in disputing that they,EP, got the 4 murders and a suicide right in the first place ? What is their explanation that they thought EP were wrong in the first instance ?
Yet suddenly when the tables had been turned,EP were right ? Same officers except for just one ?

[Jane]

So technically,the guilters are underestimating the work of EP in disputing that they,EP, got the 4 murders and a suicide right in the first place ? What is their explanation that they thought EP were wrong in the first instance ?
Yet suddenly when the tables had been turned,EP were right ? Same officers except for just one ?

I take the view that, WHATEVER work was put in, initially, it was informed by the first information they received. They wouldn't be the first -and they won't be the last- to be misguided. We ALL form opinions on information given.

[lookout]

I take the view that, WHATEVER work was put in, initially, it was informed by the first information they received. They wouldn't be the first -and they won't be the last- to be misguided. We ALL form opinions on information given.

But all officers were in agreeance,then with the turnaround,all officers were in disagreeance. Very odd !

[Jane]

But all officers were in agreeance,then with the turnaround,all officers were in disagreeance. Very odd !

No! It absolutely isn't! It's no different from pupils sitting in class. They believe what their teacher says. If it later happens that their teacher has been wrong,they're forced to re-evaluate what they believe.

[lookout]

No! It absolutely isn't! It's no different from pupils sitting in class. They believe what their teacher says. If it later happens that their teacher has been wrong,they're forced to re-evaluate what they believe.

No----these were police officers, not school-children,( though that's debateable !)they evaluate at the time of a crime,not a month later .

[Jane]

No----these were police officers, not school-children,( though that's debateable !)they evaluate at the time of a crime,not a month later .

And they listened to Jeremy, who had more knowledge than they and who had carried out the crime in a way which suggested that Sheila had done it. Ergo, they saw what he intended them to see. That's not so hard to digest, surely.

[lookout]

And they listened to Jeremy, who had more knowledge than they and who had carried out the crime in a way which suggested that Sheila had done it. Ergo, they saw what he intended them to see. That's not so hard to digest, surely.

How ridiculous ! They " listened to Jeremy " simply because they'd put questions to him in which he'd answered !
How you think and how I UNDERSTAND are poles apart !!

[Caroline]

The police were fully aware of who had committed the massacre from day one.  Any officers who looked closely at the crime scene would have recognised with immediate effect that Sheila was the killer. Because it was staged that way.

This is probably the reason why Bob Miller later expressed 'disgust' at the relatives' insinuations.  Why would Bob Miller inspect the scene, complete with two gunshot wounds to a 'suicide' victim, then come away convinced that Sheila was the killer?  Was he also stubborn like Taff?  Because it was staged that way.

Clearly, the evidence that Sheila was the killer was present within the crime scene, where it was witnessed by many police officers. Where is it?

Everything else is a red herring I'm afraid.  Jeremy's hair dye, his trip to Amsterdam or St. Tropez or Burnham on Crouch. etc.  Meaningless. I agree but that's not why I believe he's guilty. Wy would they frame him if they knew there was a call from Nevill? Why did Jeremy accuse West of forging the time on the log from 03:26 to 03:36 and argue he called the police at this time but is not pushing the notion that he did call at 03:36 to fit in the call from Nevill?

[Caroline]

So technically,the guilters are underestimating the work of EP in disputing that they,EP, got the 4 murders and a suicide right in the first place ? What is their explanation that they thought EP were wrong in the first instance ?
Yet suddenly when the tables had been turned,EP were right ? Same officers except for just one ?

They sa what Jeremy staged and had no reason not to believe him - at that point!

[Caroline]

But all officers were in agreeance,then with the turnaround,all officers were in disagreeance. Very odd !

After they investigated? How is that odd, it's ho investigations work 

[lookout]

After they investigated? How is that odd, it's ho investigations work 

It's odd because they ALL followed like sheep.Doesn't exactly exude confidence does it ? Yes men,urrgghh. Do as I say not as I do.

[Caroline]

It's odd because they ALL followed like sheep.Doesn't exactly exude confidence does it ? Yes men,urrgghh. Do as I say not as I do.

Actually yes it does, they weren't afraid to admit they got it wrong - there are lessons to be learned there! 

[lookout]

Actually yes it does, they weren't afraid to admit they got it wrong - there are lessons to be learned there! 

Then what are EP afraid of now that they're not adhering to requests from hundreds ??
Yes,there ARE lessons to be learned on NOT to ACCUSE when they're wrong to do so !!