Effects of Haloperidol

[notsure]

Susan & JackieD says Julie identifying the twins makes Bamber innocent.

no they didn't, they just said she shouldn't have been the one to do it and they couldn't understand why  she would offer to do it

[Adam]

Anyway this thread is about Haloperidol.

I didn't know it also has tranquillising effects. Mind you that does match somewhat other people on Youtube saying Haloperidol completely 'zonks them out'.

This together with the other strong pasifying effects & it being 2am anyway,  means it's very unlikely Sheila woke & certainly put up no fight.

It seems I was right. Bamber did carry Sheila a few feet to her death.

[Adam]

no they didn't, they just said she shouldn't have been the one to do it and they couldn't understand why  she would offer to do it

"As the post above you know Mugford would never in a million years offer to identify the bodies if she knew for definate her boyfriend was responsible for the dead bodies

And FACT MUGFORD was not the only person who could identify the twins

I have checked with my friend who is a high ranking policeman who said the police would have sent a car to pick up the appropriate person".

[lookout]

You don't strike me as having a high-ranking police friend.

[Adam]

You don't strike me as having a high-ranking police friend.

Alas I don't have JackieD's contacts. That was someone else's post I copied.

[maggie]

Anyway this thread is about Haloperidol.

I didn't know it also has tranquillising effects. Mind you that does match somewhat other people on Youtube saying Haloperidol completely 'zonks them out'.

This together with the other strong pasifying effects & it being 2am anyway,  means it's very unlikely Sheila woke & certainly put up no fight.

It seems I was right. Bamber did carry Sheila a few feet to her death.

It is sooo tiring to have to keep repeating this but most drugs have many side effects however some people don't suffer any side effects some get one or two and some are more unlucky and suffer quite badly.  We have no real proof apart from conflicting statements as to whether Sheila was actually suffering from any side effects at the time of the murders.  There are drugs to counter act side effects of Haloperidol but Sheila had no such drugs in her system which make me wonder if she had any particular side effects at that times.

[David1819]

It is sooo tiring to have to keep repeating this but most drugs have many side effects however some people don't suffer any side effects some get one or two and some are more unlucky and suffer quite badly.  We have no real proof apart from conflicting statements as to whether Sheila was actually suffering from any side effects at the time of the murders.  There are drugs to counter act side effects of Haloperidol but Sheila had no such drugs in her system which make me wonder if she had any particular side effects at that times.

Point refuted a thousand times.

"These are questions that have been done to death, and there is nothing new you're likely to learn by questioning them further. Unless your motivation is emotional or ideological, it's time to recognize there's nothing to be gained from continuing to go over our most-trodden ground."

A point refuted a thousand times, commonly abbreviated as PRATT, refers to a point or argument that has literally been refuted so many times that it is not worth bothering with.

[susan]

It is sooo tiring to have to keep repeating this but most drugs have many side effects however some people don't suffer any side effects some get one or two and some are more unlucky and suffer quite badly.  We have no real proof apart from conflicting statements as to whether Sheila was actually suffering from any side effects at the time of the murders.  There are drugs to counter act side effects of Haloperidol but Sheila had no such drugs in her system which make me wonder if she had any particular side effects at that times.

Maggie I am glad you have clarified that because I know as an ex Nurse you know all about these drugs and it is good to have the effects of them explained to people like me and  Adam.  Thank you fair lady

[Adam]

Maggie I am glad you have clarified that because I know as an ex Nurse you know all about these drugs and it is good to have the effects of them explained to people like me and  Adam.  Thank you fair lady

Maggie hasn't clarified anything unfortunately. 

The evidence from Bamber, Michael Horsnell & PB is that Sheila was wiped out by the end of the day. Supporters grasp at the fact she visited Bamber on his tractor hours earlier & smiled at Leonard Foakes.

The forensic evidence is Sheila was on the extremley powerful drug Haloperidol & did not appear to put up any struggle prior to being shot.

The tranquillising effect of the drug had kicked in & besides which it was bed time. 

The evidence on Haloperidol's 60+ effects is in this thread.

It's looking more & more that I was right.

[susan]

Maggie hasn't clarified anything unfortunately. 

The evidence from Bamber, Michael Horsnell & PB is that Sheila was wiped out by the end of the day. Supporters grasp at the fact she visited Bamber on his tractor hours earlier & smiled at Leonard Foakes.

The forensic evidence is Sheila was on the extremley powerful drug Haloperidol & did not appear to put up any struggle prior to being shot. The tranquillising effect of the drug had kicked in. 

The evidence on Haloperidol 60+ effects is in this thread.

It's looking more & more that I was right.

Adam maybe you are right all along

[Adam]

Adam maybe you are right all along

Sheila was certainly shot by someone else. As my thread today shows.

She could not change & remove blood, oil & gun shot residue with specialist cleaning equipment after she had killed herself.

The evidence shows she put up no struggle with Bamber.

Sadly Sheila was easy prey for him.

[lookout]

Unless you've worked with medication,then you aren't right,Adam. ALL medication has side-effects,some people suffer more than others.If you've ever read all the debacles about Statins you should know that they have life-saving properties as well as giving some people horrendous side-effects.
Certain medications don't suit everyone,even if they're meant as a cure. Everyone is different.
Sheila had suffered adverse effects from the medication she was taking.

[maggie]

Maggie hasn't clarified anything unfortunately. 

The evidence from Bamber, Michael Horsnell & PB is that Sheila was wiped out by the end of the day. Supporters grasp at the fact she visited Bamber on his tractor hours earlier & smiled at Leonard Foakes.

The forensic evidence is Sheila was on the extremley powerful drug Haloperidol & did not appear to put up any struggle prior to being shot.

The tranquillising effect of the drug had kicked in & besides which it was bed time. 

The evidence on Haloperidol's 60+ effects is in this thread.

It's looking more & more that I was right.

It's looking more and more like you are making this up as you go along.  You are wrong about her experiencing 60+ side effects that is a ridiculous claim. 

PB made no mention about Sheila's walking etc. she said that June wanted to discuss Sheila's behaviour with her the next day as she was worried about Sheila's lack of interest in anything

 JB said that she didn't speak or join in the conversation but that doesn't prove anything except for some reason she had nothing to say, didn't want to get involved, was in a world of her own.  (Interestingly, you believe JB was the murderer but you're quite happy to use his evidence to prove your point.)

Len Foalkes said she was in Pages Lane with the boys and made no comment about her walking strangely, only Michael Horsnell was quoted in a book as commenting on her strange gait and walking like a zombie. 
I only mentioned about where Sheila was seen that afternoon because you made a wild claim that she could only walk 5 steps which is a ridiculous off the cuff, throw away remark to prove a point and actually proves nothing.

I find it interesting that you have made no comment as to why, if Sheila suffered from 60+ side effects she wasn't taking any meds to counteract such a horrendous reaction to Haloperidol.  You have no understanding about drugs, side effects and counter action. 

[Steve_uk]

It's looking more and more like you are making this up as you go along.  You are wrong about her experiencing 60+ side effects that is a ridiculous claim. 

PB made no mention about Sheila's walking etc. she said that June wanted to discuss Sheila's behaviour with her the next day as she was worried about Sheila's lack of interest in anything

 JB said that she didn't speak or join in the conversation but that doesn't prove anything except for some reason she had nothing to say, didn't want to get involved, was in a world of her own.  (Interestingly, you believe JB was the murderer but you're quite happy to use his evidence to prove your point.)

Len Foalkes said she was in Pages Lane with the boys and made no comment about her walking strangely, only Michael Horsnell was quoted in a book as commenting on her strange gait and walking like a zombie. 
I only mentioned about where Sheila was seen that afternoon because you made a wild claim that she could only walk 5 steps which is a ridiculous off the cuff, throw away remark to prove a point and actually proves nothing.

I find it interesting that you have made no comment as to why, if Sheila suffered from 60+ side effects she wasn't taking any meds to counteract such a horrendous reaction to Haloperidol.  You have no understanding about drugs, side effects and counter action.

Maybe she hadn't packed the medication. She was a scatty character anyway, probably with no sense of time, which is part of the reason why she failed to hold down so many jobs. Barbara Wilson also noticed Sheila's gait, walking through a gaggle of geese as if they weren't there.

Part of the symptoms of schizophrenia is not being able to distinguish fantasy from reality, which is why some end up believing voices in their head instructing them to end it all. Sheila was disoriented, she was confused, which is why she spoke no words on the trip down to the White House and why this pattern of behaviour was duplicated on the telephone with Auntie Pam, not that she felt any particular malice at that point to any of the individuals concerned.

[Adam]

It's looking more and more like you are making this up as you go along.  You are wrong about her experiencing 60+ side effects that is a ridiculous claim. 

PB made no mention about Sheila's walking etc. she said that June wanted to discuss Sheila's behaviour with her the next day as she was worried about Sheila's lack of interest in anything

 JB said that she didn't speak or join in the conversation but that doesn't prove anything except for some reason she had nothing to say, didn't want to get involved, was in a world of her own.  (Interestingly, you believe JB was the murderer but you're quite happy to use his evidence to prove your point.)

Len Foalkes said she was in Pages Lane with the boys and made no comment about her walking strangely, only Michael Horsnell was quoted in a book as commenting on her strange gait and walking like a zombie. 
I only mentioned about where Sheila was seen that afternoon because you made a wild claim that she could only walk 5 steps which is a ridiculous off the cuff, throw away remark to prove a point and actually proves nothing.

I find it interesting that you have made no comment as to why, if Sheila suffered from 60+ side effects she wasn't taking any meds to counteract such a horrendous reaction to Haloperidol.  You have no understanding about drugs, side effects and counter action.

I didn't say Sheila was sufferring from the 60+ side effects. Suspect she was sufferring from 20 - 30.

Michael Horsnell commented on her walking & co ordination on the day. She didn't have any. PB & Bamber on her being unresponsive.

Sheila would be uncordinated & sedated from the tranquillising effects of Haloperidol.