Encounters With Evil - CBS Reality

[JackiePreece]

You can call it which ever way you choose to see it, Roch, but I'm getting the very strong impression here that it's not innocence that trying to be proved -although there are one or two who believe it- as much as a get out clause being looked for, and ONE that offers possibilities is the stance of the relatives.

There it is for everyone to see in the programme the absolute obsession with Jeremy and what he had

He wasn't a farm hand and he wasn't a farm labourer, he was the son of Neville and worked for Neville

Anne description of Jeremy's eyes ffs

Maybe we should skip back to the other documentary where apparently there was still blood on the lampshade from the murders and Ann hadn't cleaned up

Jelousy on another level from these relatives and Mugford and an easy target like Jeremy who obviously didn't have a clue what was going on around

[lookout]

I have seen the pdfs of her writing which look genuine.
Is there some proof/common knowledge they are retrospective?
I come from the position it is scientifically impossible for JB to be at the crime scene in every way to Rome, settled.
Therefore I am trying to understand Mugford as a case study.

You mean to say that you understood all 32 pages of that drivel,Samson ? It was illegible.On purpose probably !

[JackiePreece]

Well someone was guilty of planting the silencer in the cupboard, now who could that be. 

That person needs to go to prison for a very long time

[JackiePreece]

There it is for everyone to see in the programme the absolute obsession with Jeremy and what he had

He wasn't a farm hand and he wasn't a farm labourer, he was the son of Neville and worked for Neville

Anne description of Jeremy's eyes ffs

Maybe we should skip back to the other documentary where apparently there was still blood on the lampshade from the murders and Ann hadn't cleaned up

Jelousy on another level from these relatives and Mugford and an easy target like Jeremy who obviously didn't have a clue what was going on around

There only needs to be one good reconstructions and maybe a series of 6 tv shows about this case and heads will roll all over the place

[Samson]

You may not have used the word "guilty", Lookout, but every time you mention Ann, GUILT is strongly implied.
The arrogant of your acquaintance had not, presumably, been involved in horrendous multiple murders?
I agree that Jeremy's broad grin suggested that he was sure of himself and confident. Wasn't he EVER!!! It was a smirk of the "Up yours. You think I've done it but you can't prove it" variety.

Which is a ridiculous proposition. There were are many ways the best laid plans crap out, often unforeseen. That is why Bamber and Bain are appalling suspects when there are alternative and much MUCH simpler theories. The fact there is no proof they are guilty PROVES the converse for all practical purposes.

[Jane]

Which is a ridiculous proposition. There were are many ways the best laid plans crap out, often unforeseen. That is why Bamber and Bain are appalling suspects when there are alternative and much MUCH simpler theories. The fact there is no proof they are guilty PROVES the converse for all practical purposes.

Funny that, because there's no proof that the relatives are guilty either, yet there are those here who'd throw them all in prison and throw away the key.

[lookout]

You may not have used the word "guilty", Lookout, but every time you mention Ann, GUILT is strongly implied.
The arrogant of your acquaintance had not, presumably, been involved in horrendous multiple murders?
I agree that Jeremy's broad grin suggested that he was sure of himself and confident. Wasn't he EVER!!! It was a smirk of the "Up yours. You think I've done it but you can't prove it" variety.

At no point will Jeremy have known that his lousy relatives had been plotting against him behind his back so naturally because he KNEW HIMSELF that he hadn't committed the murders,his attitude would have been to stand proud-------------and NOBODY liked it,not even EP who didn't want to be beaten by a young,wealthy up-start. God help the lot of them !! Jealousy,hatred are evil traits.

[Roch]

At no point will Jeremy have known that his lousy relatives had been plotting against him behind his back so naturally because he KNEW HIMSELF that he hadn't committed the murders,his attitude would have been to stand proud...

Exactly.

[Samson]

There only needs to be one good reconstructions and maybe a series of 6 tv shows about this case and heads will roll all over the place

As soon as i understand copyright issues we will do a thread on Red, analysing fragrant CAL's reconstruction inspired by "best of Essex Police" album.
It is absolutely vital to do reconstructions in great detail, two competing and get them televised.

For example some people suggest that JB stupified Sheila with a mystery chemical to help her to her suicide pose.
That is serious band aid at work.
A film showing that would get Teresa May into guilt by sin of omission mode.

[Jane]

At no point will Jeremy have known that his lousy relatives had been plotting against him behind his back so naturally because he KNEW HIMSELF that he hadn't committed the murders,his attitude would have been to stand proud-------------and NOBODY liked it,not even EP who didn't want to be beaten by a young,wealthy up-start. God help the lot of them !! Jealousy,hatred are evil traits.

I don't think he cared. I believe he saw himself as untouchable. "Standing proud" -accompanied by holidays, parties and turning one's back on one's family- isn't the usual stance for someone who's just lost their entire near family.

[lookout]

I don't think he cared. I believe he saw himself as untouchable. "Standing proud" -accompanied by holidays, parties and turning one's back on one's family- isn't the usual stance for someone who's just lost their entire near family.

He was NEVER that close to his relatives that he should have cared about them or bothered about how they should have felt just because he was continuing with HIS life. It had NOTHING whatsoever to do with them what he did or how he did it. They were JEALOUS of his life-style and THEIR futures against his,so they had to do something about it.
NONE of the relatives showed grief at the funerals----------because they were that busy scrutinising Jeremy's reactions,to add to their lists of suspicions,with RWB accusing him of putting " whitener " on his face to make him look paler.

How people react to grief is their own way of coping.You should know that !!

[JackiePreece]

At no point will Jeremy have known that his lousy relatives had been plotting against him behind his back so naturally because he KNEW HIMSELF that he hadn't committed the murders,his attitude would have been to stand proud-------------and NOBODY liked it,not even EP who didn't want to be beaten by a young,wealthy up-start. God help the lot of them !! Jealousy,hatred are evil traits.

Great post Lookout

[JackiePreece]

I don't think he cared. I believe he saw himself as untouchable. "Standing proud" -accompanied by holidays, parties and turning one's back on one's family- isn't the usual stance for someone who's just lost their entire near family.

Trouble is Jane you 'think' all the time instead of looking at facts.  You are so desperate that Jeremy is guilty
Maybe you will get accused of a serious crime one day that you haven't committed
It happens all the time

[Jane]

He was NEVER that close to his relatives that he should have cared about them or bothered about how they should have felt just because he was continuing with HIS life. It had NOTHING whatsoever to do with them what he did or how he did it. They were JEALOUS of his life-style and THEIR futures against his,so they had to do something about it.
NONE of the relatives showed grief at the funerals----------because they were that busy scrutinising Jeremy's reactions,to add to their lists of suspicions,with RWB accusing him of putting " whitener " on his face to make him look paler.



How people react to grief is their own way of coping.You should know that !!

Love them or loathe them, his behaviour -towards his wider family- was dispicable. His relationship with his parents wasn't their fault. He could at least, have tried to show some respect for the parents who bought him up. It was the last thing he'd ever have to do for them.

[lookout]

Love them or loathe them, his behaviour -towards his wider family- was dispicable. His relationship with his parents wasn't their fault. He could at least, have tried to show some respect for the parents who bought him up. It was the last thing he'd ever have to do for them.

Rather it was Sheila who hadn't shown respect by shooting them all !!