Author Topic: Was the gun silencer fitted to to anshuzt when resting at main bedroom window?  (Read 6155 times)

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Offline Adam

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No. The silencer was inside the gun cupboard the entire night.

So RB did shoot himself with the silencer on ?
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 12:30:PM by Adam »
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Offline mike tesko

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The blood group activity (A, EAPBA, AK1, HP2-1) that was relied upon to convict Jeremy Bamber, was obtained from the flake of blood David Boutflour scraped off the silencer (according to what he says)! It did not come from a flake found inside the silencer! How do I know this? I know this because the silencer did not arrive at the lab' until 20 September 1975, too late for any flake to be found inside it, and already analysed producing the key blood group activity - the flake from which the results were obtained coming from the flake Boutflour scraped from the outside of the silencer, not the inside of it!!!
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I am 100% right!!
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Offline mike tesko

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Cops framed Bamber for the murders by them staging Sheila's body with the anshuzt rifle from the bedroom / box room window, then they took photographs claiming this was how they had originally found her body in possession of the rifle!!!
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 03:42:PM by mike tesko »
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Cops framed Bamber for the murders by them staging Sheila's body with the anshuzt rifle from the bedroom / box room window, then they took photographs claiming this was how they had originally found her body in possession of the rifle!!!

But, the contents of police radio message logs timed at 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am, 7.45am, and 8.10am, prove this false representation has to be inaccurrate!
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 04:48:PM by mike tesko »
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Offline mike tesko

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Only 3 bodies upstairs then, by 8.10am...
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Offline mike tesko

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Only 3 bodies upstairs then, by 8.10am...

Lets examine who said there were only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am?
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Offline mike tesko

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Raid team, and the occupants of CA07 - their words, nobody elses!!!
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Offline mike tesko

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How can somebody like PS Bews hold his head high when he knows that two bodies were downstairs by 7.37am, and only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am?
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How can somebody like PS Bews hold his head high when he knows that two bodies were downstairs by 7.37am, and only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am?

OK, lets go for the juggler - it wasn't PS Bews who passed these messages, it was PC Myall!!!

It wasn't PC Myall, it was PS Saxby!!

Who else can we blame!!!!
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OK, lets go for the juggler - it wasn't PS Bews who passed these messages, it was PC Myall!!!

It wasn't PC Myall, it was PS Saxby!!

Who else can we blame!!!!

Let's blame PC Collins!

If it wasn't him it was PS Woodcock!!
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Let's blame PC Collins!

If it wasn't him it was PS Woodcock!!

If it wasn't PS Woodcock, it was PC Rozga!

How about PC Webb!

How about APS Manners!!

How about PC Delgado!!
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Offline mike tesko

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They all know the role they played in the passing of these messages!
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They all know the role they played in the passing of these messages!

Then there were the staff back in Chelmsford police station Incident Room, like Malcom Bonnett, and in the control room, like PC West,  and others who received these messages - none of them have ever challenged the contents of key radio messages that were passed, received and recorded between 7.37am and 8.10am, that morning!

Two bodies downstairs, one male and one female!!

A further three bodies, found upstairs!!

Five dead in total!
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 12:33:AM by mike tesko »
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Now, we have heard about the mix up involving PC Collins which the cops have thrown into the mix! A story which the jury never got to hear about or contemplate! They kept the contents of these logs from the defence, the court, the jury and the public! You see the story about Collins reporting that he could see the body of a female behind the kitchen door was made before cops forced there way into the farmhouse! Funny how there is no mention of these key facts in any disclosed police radio message logs!! How come such vital information is missing from any log kept of the operation?

It's missing because it didn't happen like Collins and Rozga are saying!

If it had happened there would be mention of it in the logs! There is none! They introduced this excuse by way of witness statements! Typed Composite statements which the named officers probably did not even know they existed or had been made in their names!!

However, since as it states in the story line, the body which Collins reports to be the body of a female from his vantage point outside the kitchen window, turns out to be the body of Neville Bamber upon entry to the kitchen, then why does it state in the police message logs that upon entry to the kitchen, two bodies have been found? 'The body of one dead male, and, the body of one dead female' (7.37am)? Since, if there had only been the one body, that issue would have certainly been resolved upon entry to the kitchen, with a basic message of 'one dead body found in kitchen', or 'the body of be dead male', end of!!!

But, it is recorded that there were two bodies found in the kitchen, 'the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female'(7.37am)!

If there had been a mistake regarding the sex of a body from outside the kitchen window, rectified once entry had been gained, the truth would have been recorded in the logs! You would not get cops reporting two bodies, if there was only one! Not only that, but given the storyline by Collins and Rozga that the mistake over the sexual orientation of the body they had seen through the kitchen window, was immediately rectified once they got into the kitchen, why does it state in the police log that there was an additional body, a female body found in the kitchen, as well as a male body? If there had been a mix up as alluded to regarding the sexuality of one body, which got resolved as soon as the blighters entered the kitchen, why mention the discovery of two bodies, making mention of one dead male body first, along with one dead female body?

Why not mention the body of one dead female first, followed by something along the lines, 'female body now identified as the body of one dead male'?

The matter doesn't end there, either, because we have DCI Harris giving instruction from the scene to inform the incident room regarding the discovery of two bodies, for a police surgeon, and Coroner's officer, to be notified! He being one of the top Detectives working for Essex police at the time! So, here he was instructing other officers to contact the incident room, to confirm that two bodies had been found upon entry, 'the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female'! A further message, 'one dead male, one dead female' (7.38am)! If there had only been one body present downstairs in the kitchen at this stage, somebody would have noticed the error and taken measures to rectify the mistake, by saying something like, ' only one body downstairs, not two, Copy'...

By 8.10am, only three bodies found upstairs!!

If there had been a mistake downstairs with the initial body count, of say one, not two, then you would think that DCI Harris, top Essex cop would get the body count right upstairs, or at least those acting under his authority at the scene and elsewhere, at that time, would be able to count beyond the number three!!

Only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am, then!!
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 01:24:AM by mike tesko »
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