Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.

[guest1199]

The upstairs face shots were from inches away.

How can that be ascertained as fact?  I was under the impression that there was no ballistics expert at the autopsy?  If they indeed were from only inches away, then it seems they were a deliberate attempt to shut Nevill up. 

Hoots!

[Jane]

How can that be ascertained as fact?  I was under the impression that there was no ballistics expert at the autopsy?  If they indeed were from only inches away, then it seems they were a deliberate attempt to shut Nevill up. 

Hoots!

I imagine that killing him would have done that sufficiently.

[Adam]

How can that be ascertained as fact?  I was under the impression that there was no ballistics expert at the autopsy?  If they indeed were from only inches away, then it seems they were a deliberate attempt to shut Nevill up. 

Hoots!

"Deliberate attempt to shut Neville up". You can say that again.

[Adam]

From the 2002 appeal.

64. In respect of the eight shots into Nevill Bamber's body, the six to his head and face were fired when the rifle was within a few inches of the skin. The remaining injuries to the arm were caused when the gun was at least two feet from the body.

[guest1199]

As I understand it the only real evidence that Nevill was shot upstairs is the number of cartridge cases found upstairs compared to the number found downstairs.  Is there any other evidence that supports Nevill being in bed when June was shot?

[Adam]

As I understand it the only real evidence that Nevill was shot upstairs is the number of cartridge cases found upstairs compared to the number found downstairs.  Is there any other evidence that supports Nevill being in bed when June was shot?

What more should there be ?

[lookout]

As I understand it the only real evidence that Nevill was shot upstairs is the number of cartridge cases found upstairs compared to the number found downstairs.  Is there any other evidence that supports Nevill being in bed when June was shot?

Nope.

[Adam]

If Bamber opened fire on June, as is likely, I'm not sure where else Nevill would have been. Other than in bed.

[lookout]

Try downstairs.

[guest1199]

What more should there be ?

Well, for instance was there any of Nevill's blood on the bed?

[Adam]

Well, for instance was there any of Nevill's blood on the bed?

No one is saying Neville was shot in bed. If he was in bed Bamber would have got 4 face shots.

Nevill was probably in the process of getting out of bed & standing up. Bamber retreating slightly as Nevill stood,  but continuing to fire, hitting Nevill in the arm and shoulder.

[guest1199]

No one is saying Neville was shot in bed. If he was in bed Bamber would have got 4 face shots.

Nevill was probably in the process of getting out of bed & standing up. Bamber retreating slightly as Nevill stood,  but continuing to fire, hitting Nevill in the arm and shoulder.

Is there any evidence that Nevill was even in the room when June was shot?

[Adam]

Is there any evidence that Nevill was even in the room when June was shot?

Yes, 4 casings  it was 2am & Nevill & June shated a bed every night.

[guest1199]

Yes, 4 casings  it was 2am & Nevill & June shated a bed every night.

Is that the best you've got?

[Adam]

Is that the best you've got?

I know where you're going.

Nevill rang up Bamber. Then went upstairs & Sheila put the rifle inches from his face & fired. Nevill doing nothing except go back downstairs.