Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.

[lookout]

I don't remember seeing any large patches of blood on his pyjamas in that area ?

[Adam]

Hi there y'all I got this from CAL's book again:

"The bullet wound to Nevill’s lower lip had penetrated his left jaw into his backbone, producing severe fractures in his jawbone, shattering his teeth, disrupting neck tissue, the structures of his larynx and the main gland beneath his neck. Later forensic evidence would indicate that he sustained those injuries in the bedroom".

I know that this would be a major point if it were true; however I'd need to know the source of this exactly and how accurate it is. Sorry if this has been covered ad nauseam in the past, any takers?

Hoots!

41. Nevill Bamber, who was wearing his pyjamas had been shot eight times. There were two wounds to the right side and two to the top of the head. If not immediately fatal, the combined effect of these four injuries would have been immediate unconsciousness and incapacitation. There was a wound to the left side of the lip and another to the left part of the lower jaw. This injury caused severe fracturing of the jaw, of the teeth in that area and damaged soft tissue in the neck and the larynx. These features of this particular injury and the resultant flow of blood into the mouth meant, in the pathologist's opinion, that Nevill Bamber would not have been able to engage in purposeful talk. There were also gunshot wounds to the left shoulder and a grazing wound above the left elbow.

[lookout]

Where was his heavily blood-stained pyjama jacket ?

[lookout]

Show me a pic of a heavily-stained jacket which Neville had worn,where he was allegedly shot in the mouth/jaw.

[guest1199]

41. Nevill Bamber, who was wearing his pyjamas had been shot eight times. There were two wounds to the right side and two to the top of the head. If not immediately fatal, the combined effect of these four injuries would have been immediate unconsciousness and incapacitation. There was a wound to the left side of the lip and another to the left part of the lower jaw. This injury caused severe fracturing of the jaw, of the teeth in that area and damaged soft tissue in the neck and the larynx. These features of this particular injury and the resultant flow of blood into the mouth meant, in the pathologist's opinion, that Nevill Bamber would not have been able to engage in purposeful talk. There were also gunshot wounds to the left shoulder and a grazing wound above the left elbow.

Thanks Adam; however I'm still struggling with CAL's statement that the wounds to Nevill's mouth were inflicted upstairs.  For instance, did the cops find fragments of Nevill's shattered teeth upstairs?  What else could constitute the "forensic evidence" that CAL refers to?

I'm in the process of reading CAL's book for the second time and this is as far as I've got.  If this is a fact then it's something that I have to take seriously.  Does anyone know of anywhere in the book where the "forensic evidence" for Nevill being shot in the mouth in the bedroom is described in detail?

Hoots

Hoots.

[Jane]

Show me a pic of a heavily-stained jacket which Neville had worn,where he was allegedly shot in the mouth/jaw.

It seems to be more than simply "alleged" that Nevill was shot in the mouth/jaw.

[Jane]

Thanks Adam; however I'm still struggling with CAL's statement that the wounds to Nevill's mouth were inflicted upstairs.  For instance, did the cops find fragments of Nevill's shattered teeth upstairs?  What else could constitute the "forensic evidence" that CAL refers to?

I'm in the process of reading CAL's book for the second time and this is as far as I've got.  If this is a fact then it's something that I have to take seriously.  Does anyone know of anywhere in the book where the "forensic evidence" for Nevill being shot in the mouth in the bedroom is described in detail?

Hoots

It's likely that he could have swallowed tooth fragments along with a mouthful of blood.

Hoots.

[Caroline]

Thanks Adam; however I'm still struggling with CAL's statement that the wounds to Nevill's mouth were inflicted upstairs.  For instance, did the cops find fragments of Nevill's shattered teeth upstairs?  What else could constitute the "forensic evidence" that CAL refers to?

I'm in the process of reading CAL's book for the second time and this is as far as I've got.  If this is a fact then it's something that I have to take seriously.  Does anyone know of anywhere in the book where the "forensic evidence" for Nevill being shot in the mouth in the bedroom is described in detail?

Hoots

Hoots.

The police weren't exactly thorough in their evidence gathering because of what they initially believed.

[lookout]

A reaction would have been to spit out,as he'd have been aware of a mouthful of blood and teeth ?

[guest1199]

Well, I was looking for something a bit more conclusive.  I'll press on with re-reading the book to see if CAL comes up with something more definitive, though I didn't see anything the first time.

Hoots.

[Jane]

A reaction would have been to spit out,as he'd have been aware of a mouthful of blood and teeth ?

I guess there's the blood stains on his PJ jacket, then.

[Adam]

Thanks Adam; however I'm still struggling with CAL's statement that the wounds to Nevill's mouth were inflicted upstairs.  For instance, did the cops find fragments of Nevill's shattered teeth upstairs?  What else could constitute the "forensic evidence" that CAL refers to?

I'm in the process of reading CAL's book for the second time and this is as far as I've got.  If this is a fact then it's something that I have to take seriously.  Does anyone know of anywhere in the book where the "forensic evidence" for Nevill being shot in the mouth in the bedroom is described in detail?

Hoots

Hoots.

The wounds to the top and right side of Nevill's head would have been inflicted downstairs. After the kitchen fight.

The lip & jaw shots would be caused in the bedroom.

[lookout]

I guess there's the blood stains on his PJ jacket, then.

The forensic pic of the jacket doesn't show the quantity of blood that there would have been on the frontal area of the jacket. What I remember was an "L-shaped " tear and a broken button but no blood stain that would have accounted for a facial shot ?
Would it have been that he hadn't been wearing his jacket at that time and had been taken unawares ?

[Jane]

The forensic pic of the jacket doesn't show the quantity of blood that there would have been on the frontal area of the jacket. What I remember was an "L-shaped " tear and a broken button but no blood stain that would have accounted for a facial shot ?
Would it have been that he hadn't been wearing his jacket at that time and had been taken unawares ?

So are you saying that you don't believe there to have been any facial shots? I fail to see how, with such injuries, he'd have been able to put on a PJ jacket -had he not been wearing one- as if nothing untoward was happening.

[susan]

The wounds to the top and right side of Nevill's head would have been inflicted downstairs. After the kitchen fight.

The lip & jaw shots would be caused in the bedroom.

Adam were the lip and jaw shots inflicted in the bedroom or the stairs?