Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.

[Roch]

Stan Jones also verified this, although you don't want to believe it.

"On the second day after the shooting I spoke out and said it was Bamber who did it. I was ostracised and (I) spent a month of hell.

"When I chatted to Bamber I didn't get the reaction of someone who had lost all his family. On the day of the discovery I was chatting to him at his home in Goldhanger when Julie turns up."

As the couple spoke he thought he heard Bamber laugh.

"I thought 'was that a laugh or a cough' and later she confirmed it was a laugh and Jeremy said 'what an actor I am'."

That's two people who was there.

Justice I agree - it's an interesting anecdote (especially his month of being sent to Coventry). But these two were like Torvill and Dean - inextricably linked to Julie formulating several statements.  What's the betting that he actually heard a cough (as he stated) - and then when formulating her statements, he suggested to Julie that the cough should be reinterpreted as a laugh  - and that to accentuate this - Bamber would have needed to have said something like 'I should have been an actor'.

No disrespect meant - but when this man wasn't with Julie, he was downing whiskey at the farm and collecting a certain exhibit.

[Jane]

Stan Jones also verified this, although you don't want to believe it.

"On the second day after the shooting I spoke out and said it was Bamber who did it. I was ostracised and (I) spent a month of hell.

"When I chatted to Bamber I didn't get the reaction of someone who had lost all his family. On the day of the discovery I was chatting to him at his home in Goldhanger when Julie turns up."

As the couple spoke he thought he heard Bamber laugh.

"I thought 'was that a laugh or a cough' and later she confirmed it was a laugh and Jeremy said 'what an actor I am'."

That's two people who was there.

Thanks for that, Justice

[guest7363]

Justice I agree - it's an interesting anecdote (especially his month of being sent to Coventry). But these  two were like Torvill and Dean - inextricably linked to Julie formulating several statements.  What's the betting that he actually heard a cough (as he stated) - and then when formulating her statements, he suggested to Julie that the cough should be reinterpreted as a laugh  - and that to accentuate this - Bamber would have needed to have said something like 'I should have been an actor'.

No disrespect meant - but when this man wasn't with Julie, he was downing whiskey at the farm and collecting a certain exhibit.

Get back later Roch, football on soooon.  I agree but it's a little more proof than just denying what was sai without evidence?  I don't take everything for granted but all we have to go on is statements and interpret from them without arguing.  Love your posts by the way good to see you back on form.

[Roch]

Get back later Roch, football on soooon.  I agree but it's a little more proof than just denying what was sai without evidence?  I don't take everything for granted but all we have to go on is statements and interpret from them without arguing.  Love your posts by the way good to see you back on form.

Yes - he certainly was able to seem convincing - PH claimed to have quite liked him.  And thanks for your view on said posts.

[Caroline]

Well we can only take Caroline's word for that. She had plenty of time between to Christmas cards to push for an answer

The story of the nude photos has been doing the rounds for years
She didn't seem to believe it when she thought Jeremy was innocent

I didn't know enough about it then, I do now! Also like you, I was in denial!

[JackiePreece]

Stan Jones also verified this, although you don't want to believe it.

"On the second day after the shooting I spoke out and said it was Bamber who did it. I was ostracised and (I) spent a month of hell.

"When I chatted to Bamber I didn't get the reaction of someone who had lost all his family. On the day of the discovery I was chatting to him at his home in Goldhanger when Julie turns up."

As the couple spoke he thought he heard Bamber laugh.

"I thought 'was that a laugh or a cough' and later she confirmed it was a laugh and Jeremy said 'what an actor I am'."

That's two people who was there.

Let's recap shall we
One of the people was Mugford not known for her honesty and made a fortune out of cheque book journolism

The other Stan Jones

Police don't lie do they???

Try to remember all the people that have spent years in prison because of police cover ups

Could you remind me of which police officers got reprimanded for accepting gifts
Why do you think police get reprimanded for accepting gifts ?

Do you really think Mugford would have done a double page spread scantily dressed if Jeremy had really informed her he was responsible for the death of two babies she could have saved

The guilt would have killed anyone but apparently not Mugford she put her hand straight up so she could see the bodies

[JackiePreece]

I didn't know enough about it then, I do now! Also like you, I was in denial!

I don't believe you

The subject of the photos of Sheila has been discussed on this forum for years

[Caroline]

I don't believe you

The subject of the photos of Sheila has been discussed on this forum for years

I don't care if you believe me or not, funnily enough, I don't believe anything you say either.

Not even sure what the point of the last comment is but SO?

[notsure]

I keep seeing posts from supporters about how Jeremy's words, about his relationship with Sheila, have been misinterpreted. I suppose there are those here who wish they'd tried harder to see/speak with a friend/relative who subsequently died before that happened. Jeremy was given that chance by police who didn't know Sheila was already dead. Jeremy turned down the opportunity to try to speak to her -understandably. It seems strange to me that, at 25, he hadn't got over what could have been no more than childhood dislike of a sibling. Given how serious was the situation, it suggests there may have been a much deeper dislike that he wasn't prepared to set aside

Attempts are being made to second guess what was the meaning of his words. In a world where I believe nothing is said for nothing, I believe he meant every word of what he said about her. Especially those he said whilst he was under pressure.

hey Jane have I missed something. Are you saying that he was asked to speak to shiela on the loudspeaker outside?

[Jane]

hey Jane have I missed something. Are you saying that he was asked to speak to shiela on the loudspeaker outside?

One of the policemen suggested that Jeremy might try to make contact with her. I think it was a question of the police or Jeremy, and yes, I guess by loudspeaker. Jeremy declined on the grounds that he didn't like her and she didn't like him.

[notsure]

One of the policemen suggested that Jeremy might try to make contact with her. I think it was a question of the police or Jeremy, and yes, I guess by loudspeaker. Jeremy declined on the grounds that he didn't like her and she didn't like him.

I must read up on that, if it was a suggestion I don't see why he wouldn't of done . 

[Adam]

One of the policemen suggested that Jeremy might try to make contact with her. I think it was a question of the police or Jeremy, and yes, I guess by loudspeaker. Jeremy declined on the grounds that he didn't like her and she didn't like him.

Have you got a source for this ?

The latest CT video says Bamber was taken 400 yards from WHF.

[Steve_uk]

Have you got a source for this ?

The latest CT video says Bamber was taken 400 yards from WHF.

Bews reflects: "He asked if we-myself and Steve-would go in, and told us "You can get in at the back." I said "No, we're not going in, we'll do a recoinnoitre." There was no way any of us were going in there unarmed."

Bews and Myall set off on foot, retracing their steps when Jeremy made no attempt to follow. "Is it likely you sister's in there with a gun?" Myall asked.

Jeremy nodded.

"Who is she more likely to be annoyed at seeing, you or us?"

"Both of us. I don't get on with her at all. I don't like her and she doesn't like me."

"I think as it's your family, you ought to come in with us."

"Alright," Jeremy said, and they headed towards the farmhouse.

One has to ask why, if there was animosity between brother and sister Nevill would ask Jeremy to intercede in the first place, unless he was blissfully unaware of any problems, which knowing his conversations with Barbara Wilson this was not the case. His whole story begins to unravel, it was a plan which would not stand up to scrutiny and relied on Police accepting his version of events from the outset.

[Adam]

Bews reflects: "He asked if we-myself and Steve-would go in, and told us "You can get in at the back." I said "No, we're not going in, we'll do a recoinnoitre." There was no way any of us were going in there unarmed."

Bews and Myall set off on foot, retracing their steps when Jeremy made no attempt to follow. "Is it likely you sister's in there with a gun?" Myall asked.

Jeremy nodded.

"Who is she more likely to be annoyed at seeing, you or us?"

"Both of us. I don't get on with her at all. I don't like her and she doesn't like me."

"I think as it's your family, you ought to come in with us."

"Alright," Jeremy said, and they headed towards the farmhouse.

One has to ask why, if there was animosity between brother and sister Nevill would ask Jeremy to intercede in the first place, unless he was blissfully unaware of any problems, which knowing his conversations with Barbara Wilson this was not the case. His whole story begins to unravel, it was a plan which would not stand up to scrutiny and relied on Police accepting his version of events from the outset.

Nevill calling Bamber, lol.

[guest1199]

Hi there y'all I got this from CAL's book again:

"The bullet wound to Nevill’s lower lip had penetrated his left jaw into his backbone, producing severe fractures in his jawbone, shattering his teeth, disrupting neck tissue, the structures of his larynx and the main gland beneath his neck. Later forensic evidence would indicate that he sustained those injuries in the bedroom".

I know that this would be a major point if it were true; however I'd need to know the source of this exactly and how accurate it is. Sorry if this has been covered ad nauseam in the past, any takers?

Hoots!