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Offline JackiePreece

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« Reply #420 on: April 14, 2017, 09:39:PM »
Jackie, we ALL saw the emails and some of us have a good enough grasp of the English language to recognize a letter of introduction, be it hand written or email.

What a liar you know exactly who I am referring to

The person who grew up with Jeremy at Greshams
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« Reply #421 on: April 14, 2017, 09:40:PM »
Susan

A former Gresham pupil contacted me who is now a well known journalist and is absolutely convinced Jeremy did not carry out the murders

I didn't get that out of a book by the way

Explain your self
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« Reply #422 on: April 14, 2017, 09:44:PM »
I would have thought the crimes would have to be non-contact looking at Sheila's hands, nightie and fingernails. Under those circumstances I just don't see it: some people want Sheila to be psychotic to the extent that she had control of herself and others, yet conscious enough to have planned the removal of the sights, the bedroom telephone and to avoid Police upon their arrival.

(a) Collins' assertion was right and she never was actually downstairs at 7.30am

(b) Sheila was downstairs but only 'playing possum' - which is how she managed to get upstairs when the opportunity arose.  But how was she assessed as being dead - if she didn't yet have any gunshot wound?

(c) Sheila was downstairs but her initial gunshot wound, whether a botched suicide attempt or the result of a Mike Tesko / Woodcock theory, was superficial (in the sense that it allowed her travel upstairs before collapsing etc).
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« Reply #423 on: April 14, 2017, 09:45:PM »
Caught out again Jane J how many times is that now

Now provide proof that I contacted the journolist who went to Greshams with JB

How the **** would I know the names of people JB went to school with

You idiot
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« Reply #424 on: April 14, 2017, 09:45:PM »
Explain your self

It was your post, if you don't know what you're rambling on about who does?  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #425 on: April 14, 2017, 09:47:PM »
Get a life Caroline
Try using some intelligence and read your mates post
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« Reply #426 on: April 14, 2017, 09:48:PM »
Caught out again Jane J how many times is that now

Now provide proof that I contacted the journolist who went to Greshams with JB

How the **** would I know the names of people JB went to school with

You idiot

Because you never tire of telling us how Jeremy used to call you on the phone, you could have asked him or he could have told you and given that you haven't mentioned any names, how do we know you know his name? You idiot!
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« Reply #427 on: April 14, 2017, 09:49:PM »
Still waiting Jane J for the proof I got in touch with the guy who went to school at Greshams

Caroline you are sounding desperate as usual
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« Reply #428 on: April 14, 2017, 09:50:PM »
Get a life Caroline
Try using some intelligence and read your mates post

I'd tell you to do the same but there is little point - there was a raccoon on Gogglebox, who would give you a run for your money!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #429 on: April 14, 2017, 09:50:PM »
What a liar you know exactly who I am referring to

The person who grew up with Jeremy at Greshams

Haha! You really have question dodging down to a fine art, don't you.................but then politicians and liars -is there a defining difference, I ask myself- have to.

I WASN'T speaking of a school boy 'friend' -who incidentally was missing from those who stood up in court to give Jeremy a character witness. Ooops, my mistake. There weren't any- I was speaking of the email you sent to Paul Harrison.

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« Reply #430 on: April 14, 2017, 09:52:PM »
Still waiting Jane J for the proof I got in touch with the guy who went to school at Greshams

Caroline you are sounding desperate as usual

You're the one trying desperately to name drop (without mentioning names) and I'm sounding desperate? You crack me up!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #431 on: April 14, 2017, 09:59:PM »
Bagging up the twins' belongings for the man who cheated on, rejected and abandoned his sister to her fate?  I don't condone Jeremy's actions here - they were unthinking to the level of callousness.  None of this is evidence of having slaughtered his family, leaving them in a house secured from the inside.

I didn't say it was evidence of his guilt, I said it wasn't exactly the behaviour of a grieving man. Colin and Sheila got divorced it happens to lots of people - it's called life. The twins were still his dead sons and bagging up their belongings like they were rubbish shows that Jeremy is devoid of empathy - and there is a word for that.
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« Reply #432 on: April 14, 2017, 10:02:PM »
(a) Collins' assertion was right and she never was actually downstairs at 7.30am

(b) Sheila was downstairs but only 'playing possum' - which is how she managed to get upstairs when the opportunity arose.  But how was she assessed as being dead - if she didn't yet have any gunshot wound?

(c) Sheila was downstairs but her initial gunshot wound, whether a botched suicide attempt or the result of a Mike Tesko / Woodcock theory, was superficial (in the sense that it allowed her travel upstairs before collapsing etc).
No I don't accept this at all. The first shot blew half her jaw off and would have killed her anyway. It's far more likely that she was sitting down during both shots, and again we're back to how you can prove she shot herself twice or whether Jeremy's hand was on the gun when the shots were discharged.

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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #433 on: April 14, 2017, 10:02:PM »
The only time PH gets mentioned is when you and David bring him up.  I don't believe anyone has contacted you re this case, you don't know enough about it for anyone to take you seriously.

So another one of your lies.  They come thick and fast.
You are looking stupider by the minute
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« Reply #434 on: April 14, 2017, 10:06:PM »
Hi susan I agree we all grieve differently, but it's strange that more than one person felt he was acting and Colin described him as copying his own way of grieving. Len Foakes said shortly after the murders had been discovered Jeremy told him to carry on working and didn't show any outward signs of sadness, we have David Boutflour's account where Jeremy looks at his watch in church and says "Time's up", then is seen smirking at a distance when the cameras are no longer filming.

Good old David
Is that the David that announced he had spent all the Bamber fortunes


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Everyone grieves definately
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