Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.

[Steve_uk]

You have read too much Enid Blyton
There is no evidence loathed his adoptive parents and he saw no need to look for his real parents
Your posts are just fairy stories

It almost was a 1960s time warp as Jeremy and Sheila frolicked in the fields, though boys being later developers he struggled to find the emotional reassurance which eluded him. He attempted in vain to garner his mother's attention by snapping the stalks of her dahlias, but to no avail as June was as emotionally barren without as she was within. It was somehow fitting that post-murders the one keepsake Jeremy insisted upon was the milk teeth belonging to himself and Sheila, relics of a bygone age when all seemed normal and secure, mementoes of that unassailable fortress which was White House Farm.

[JackiePreece]

You clearly haven't read enough, I don't recall "Five Blast Their Family To Kingdom Come (Then Had Lashings of Lemonade)" but maybe I missed that one? 

There is evidence, he said so to others, he talked of killing them and they ended up dead.

Your posts are repetitive.

No your posts are boring and repetitive

The only evidence came from a bitter twisted women who saw a way to make some big money

It's because of people like her rules on cheque book journolism changed

[Steve_uk]

So are you suggesting the blood could have come from Jeremy cutting himself shaving or are you suggesting he wore the shirt under the wetsuit

He had twenty minutes to clean himself up, when he claimed to be flicking calmly through the Yellow Pages to get the number of Chelmsford Police Station. His collected manner continued at the beginning of the call to PC West, only to turn to a more flustered tone when he embellished his tale to his dad "sounded frightened" and was not "kidding around".

[JackiePreece]

I have been told by a senior police officer that JB is innocent and most senior police officers know this

This police officer is currently writing a book and I have no idea what the content will be

I do not care if anyone on this forum believes me or not but it confirms what I have believed for a long time

I think it is plain scary if these cover ups happen

[Roch]

He had twenty minutes to clean himself up, when he claimed to be flicking calmly through the Yellow Pages to get the number of Chelmsford Police Station. His collected manner continued at the beginning of the call to PC West, only to turn to a more flustered tone when he embellished his tale to his dad "sounded frightened" and was not "kidding around".

20 minutes isn't really a great deal of time when you consider the carnage in the farmhouse.  How did he manage to successfully guess that the police wouldn't suspect him from the off - given that he had left Sheila with two gunshot wounds to the throat after having set her up as a suicide victim?

How did he know that the police wouldn't forensically check his person or cottage for traces of blood or excessive washing?  He apparently knew that he had completely botched Sheila's 'suicide' when he was washing himself!

[JackiePreece]

It almost was a 1960s time warp as Jeremy and Sheila frolicked in the fields, though boys being later developers he struggled to find the emotional reassurance which eluded him. He attempted in vain to garner his mother's attention by snapping the stalks of her dahlias, but to no avail as June was as emotionally barren without as she was within. It was somehow fitting that post-murders the one keepsake Jeremy insisted upon was the milk teeth belonging to himself and Sheila, relics of a bygone age when all seemed normal and secure, mementoes of that unassailable fortress which was White House Farm.

Please no more
We are discussing a serious subject

[JackiePreece]

He had twenty minutes to clean himself up, when he claimed to be flicking calmly through the Yellow Pages to get the number of Chelmsford Police Station. His collected manner continued at the beginning of the call to PC West, only to turn to a more flustered tone when he embellished his tale to his dad "sounded frightened" and was not "kidding around".

We were discussing blood on JB s shirt

[Caroline]

No your posts are boring and repetitive

The only evidence came from a bitter twisted women who saw a way to make some big money

It's because of people like her rules on cheque book journolism changed

Oh something you both have in common! That's nice! 

[susan]

20 minutes isn't really a great deal of time when you consider the carnage in the farmhouse.  How did he manage to successfully guess that the police wouldn't suspect him from the off - given that he had left Sheila with two gunshot wounds to the throat after having set her up as a suicide victim?

How did he know that the police wouldn't forensically check his person or cottage for traces of blood or excessive washing?  He apparently knew that he had completely botched Sheila's 'suicide' when he was washing himself!

Roch

good points and does make one to think about who did kill the family.

[Caroline]

I have been told by a senior police officer that JB is innocent and most senior police officers know this

This police officer is currently writing a book and I have no idea what the content will be

I do not care if anyone on this forum believes me or not but it confirms what I have believed for a long time

I think it is plain scary if these cover ups happen

Of course you have Jackie  . Was this errrrr 'senior police officer' one that worked on the Bamber case or just someone with an opinion?

[guest1199]

He didn't say which wound he was referring to. Your mistake (and a lot of people make it) is thinking that the lower wound was not fatal. It wasn't immediately fatal BUT the bullet caught the jugular she it would  have eventually killed her.

Hi Caroline, I don't mind making mistakes.  I've got a lot to learn about this case, so I see this as a fact finding mission.  So I can assume that the "one gunshot wound" that Dr Craig sees is the lower one, that allegedly was inflicted by JB some hours earlier which although not killing Sheila instantly rendered her unconcious.  Sheila bleeds to death internally and dies, sometime later as I understand it. This is the "one gunshot wound" that Dr.Craig sees some hours later; however what about the second GSW that Dr Craig doesn't see at 8.44am?  When does that get inflicted? 

Hoots!

[JackiePreece]

Of course you have Jackie  . Was this errrrr 'senior police officer' one that worked on the Bamber case or just someone with an opinion?

I have given Ngb the details that's all I can post on here and your opinion means nothing to me

[Caroline]

20 minutes isn't really a great deal of time when you consider the carnage in the farmhouse.  How did he manage to successfully guess that the police wouldn't suspect him from the off - given that he had left Sheila with two gunshot wounds to the throat after having set her up as a suicide victim?

How did he know that the police wouldn't forensically check his person or cottage for traces of blood or excessive washing?  He apparently knew that he had completely botched Sheila's 'suicide' when he was washing himself!

He didn't KNOW they wouldn't suspect him, he believed they wouldn't. Like any criminal, there would be no crime IF criminals though they would be suspected from the off. What was he supposed to do after the two shots happened? He had no choice but to go ahead and make sure that he put himself some place else when the murders were supposed to be happening - hence the phone call.

He didn't know, but he couldn't turn the clock back, he just had to crack on. They were too busy to suspect him from the off.

[Roch]

Roch

good points and does make one to think about who did kill the family.

Sheila Caffell murdered her family - though I imagine it might have been considered 'diminished responsibility' (for example if she had survived and gone on trial). She may never have become fit for trial if she had survived - so I don't know the legalities of what would have been done in those circs.  Maybe ngb could provide an opinion?

[Steve_uk]

20 minutes isn't really a great deal of time when you consider the carnage in the farmhouse.  How did he manage to successfully guess that the police wouldn't suspect him from the off - given that he had left Sheila with two gunshot wounds to the throat after having set her up as a suicide victim?

How did he know that the police wouldn't forensically check his person or cottage for traces of blood or excessive washing?  He apparently knew that he had completely botched Sheila's 'suicide' when he was washing himself!

I could turn that around and ask why there was a twenty-minute delay in telephoning Police, which is explained, of course, if there were no telephone call from Nevill in the first place. His attitude to Police had been conditioned by his father, who labelled the local constabulary "Dad's Army", and his recent brush with Police when he crashed his Vauxhall Astra only weeks before confirmed this interpretation that they were impressed by the wealth and status which Jeremy's association with White House Farm afforded.