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Offline Jane

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« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2017, 09:57:PM »




Left open after a 999 call !

Not the sort you want it to be. It's written in inverts.

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« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2017, 10:00:PM »
The 'forensic' evidence is it was human blood in the silencer. Certainly Sheila's according to the judge.

An awake an out of bed Nevill is much more likely to confront Sheila upstairs. Rather than run downstairs to phone Bamber  :)). Leaving Sheila upstairs with a loaded rifle for several minutes.

It's doubtful Nevill punched Bamber. Nevill had been shot 4 times & was bare footed in pyjamas. Bamber had the rifle which he hit Nevill with. So hard the stock broke.

As to the blood in the silencer, that's not what I have read, its highly contentious if it is even human, when you shoot a rat or fox often the first thing I person will do is nudge it with something ie the barrel.

All assertions of NB reactions are just opinion, but as said it might / would not matter who was holding it, the bullets are the issue not the holder.

And the stock could have been broken post mortem.

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« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2017, 10:01:PM »
It is very odd that bamber left that rifle like that, I mean it was almost like he knew she could actually use it. But the flip side is that bamber would not have known when he came through that window if NB moved it and put it under lock and key, if he had bamber would have had a hell of a dilemma.

You are focusing on trying to magnify minor obstacles Bamber may have had. But it seems you have given up on creating a scenario of how Sheila committed the massacre to match the crime scene.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2017, 10:02:PM »
Not the sort you want it to be. It's written in inverts.

It doesn't say what she said it does and it certainly does NOT mean what she is implying. Once again it has to be pointed out that she is wrong!
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« Reply #94 on: March 15, 2017, 10:03:PM »
Jeremy had the benefit of a rifle's length between himself and his father.





Man or woman " has the benefit of a rifle's length between them and their quarry. Nobody argues with ANYONE who's armed.

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« Reply #95 on: March 15, 2017, 10:05:PM »




A bad-tempered one too !

Bad temper requires mental energy. Something Sheila had lacked during her last fortnight.

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« Reply #96 on: March 15, 2017, 10:07:PM »
It is very odd that bamber left that rifle like that, I mean it was almost like he knew she could actually use it. But the flip side is that bamber would not have known when he came through that window if NB moved it and put it under lock and key, if he had bamber would have had a hell of a dilemma.

You're using your own mental processes and portraying those things which would have worried you. Jeremy wouldn't have had your concerns.

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« Reply #97 on: March 15, 2017, 10:09:PM »
As to the blood in the silencer, that's not what I have read, its highly contentious if it is even human, when you shoot a rat or fox often the first thing I person will do is nudge it with something ie the barrel.

All assertions of NB reactions are just opinion, but as said it might / would not matter who was holding it, the bullets are the issue not the holder.

And the stock could have been broken post mortem.

The blood was human blood. Which means it was used on the massacre night. It was almost certainly Sheila's, who received a contact shot. There was no blood on the rifle end.

What do you mean the rifle could have been broken post mortem ?

It is correct Nevill may retreat if someone is shooting him. Especially if it's dark. Less likely if it is light, Nevill is up & awake and sees it's his daughter.

Why do you think Nevill chose to ring Bamber ?

« Last Edit: March 15, 2017, 10:10:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #98 on: March 15, 2017, 10:10:PM »
Not the sort you want it to be. It's written in inverts.





Emphasis.

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« Reply #99 on: March 15, 2017, 10:10:PM »
You are focusing on trying to magnify minor obstacles Bamber may have had. But it seems you have given up on creating a scenario of how Sheila committed the massacre to match the crime scene.

I've already done this for you.

You cannot even prove how Jeremy entered the house.

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« Reply #100 on: March 15, 2017, 10:12:PM »
I've already done this for you.

You cannot even prove how Jeremy entered the house.

Jeremy said he knew how to enter the bathroom and kitchen windows. Locked or unlocked.
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« Reply #101 on: March 15, 2017, 10:12:PM »
Bad temper requires mental energy. Something Sheila had lacked during her last fortnight.





Those with " mental energy " have the strength of an ox,and Sheila possessed that. She fooled everyone,including yourself.

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« Reply #102 on: March 15, 2017, 10:13:PM »




Emphasis.

Why so, Lookout? 999 is it's own emphasis.

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« Reply #103 on: March 15, 2017, 10:17:PM »




Those with " mental energy " have the strength of an ox,and Sheila possessed that. She fooled everyone,including yourself.

No she didn't - she was over sedated and didn't kill anyone.
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« Reply #104 on: March 15, 2017, 10:18:PM »




Those with " mental energy " have the strength of an ox,and Sheila possessed that. She fooled everyone,including yourself.

Why would she have set out to "fool everyone" during her last fortnight, Lookout? Why would this girl who loved to look pretty and to be told she looked pretty walk around smelling and looking like a bag lady? Why would she move through the party as if she wasn't there, ignoring her child when he wanted to sit on her lap? Why would she remain silent, ignoring her children and he ex husband all the way from London to Essex?