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Offline mike tesko

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No guessing then, which of these two bodies was reportedly found in second position after entry was gained to the kitchen - not June Bamber, then because her death could never be entertained in a month of sundays as a suicide!

Second body found in kitchen upon entry had to be, was Sheila Caffell!
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Mike, if EP very cleverly framed JB for these murders how many of them do you think were involved? Could they all keep their mouths shout for over 30 years?

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Contents of police message log timed at 8.10am 'a further three bodies, Making five dead in total'!

Sheila's body could not have been included in that total of three, otherwise the first two bodies found downstairs in the kitchen would have been reported and spoken about as a murder, and a murder, not a murder, and a suicide!!
« Last Edit: March 13, 2017, 03:48:PM by mike tesko »
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Second body found in kitchen upon entry had to be, was Sheila Caffell!

Except Rozga never saw a second body. Neither did he hear tell of a second body. He heard via radio control that "A" body had been discovered. There was certainly a lot of blood which he was warned not to walk through but no sign of another body NOR did he mention that it looked as if there had been one which got up and walked.

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Contents of police message log timed at 8.10am 'a further three bodies, Making five dead in total'!

Sheila's body could not have been included in that total of three, otherwise the first two bodies found downstairs in the kitchen would have been reported and spoken about as a murder, and a murder, not a murder, and a suicide!!

By this stage (8.10am) the rifle was still resting against the first floor box room window!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Except Rozga never saw a second body. Neither did he hear tell of a second body. He heard via radio control that "A" body had been discovered. There was certainly a lot of blood which he was warned not to walk through but no sign of another body NOR did he mention that it looked as if there had been one which got up and walked.

It was not in Rozga's interests to mention a second body, nobody asked him about it, so he never said there wasn't one!

Oh, look a edited, typed composite witness statement created by another in PC Rozga's name!!!

And, although the composite statement wasn't created until December 1985, onward, look at the date the composite statement was dated beforehand! Why couldn't Rozga make his own handwritten statement? How do you know that vital parts were not edited out like in Colin Caffells and Jeremy Bambers witness statements?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1620.0;attach=7650;image
« Last Edit: March 13, 2017, 03:55:PM by mike tesko »
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It was not in Rozga's interests to mention a second body, nobody asked him about it, so he never said there wasn't one!

Oh, look a edited, typed composite witness statement created by another in PC Rozga's name!!!

And, although the composite statement wasn't created until December 1985, onward, look at the date the composite statement was dated beforehand! Why couldn't Rozga make his own handwritten statement? How do you know that vital parts were not edited out like in Colin Caffells and Jeremy Bambers witness statements?

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1620.0;attach=7650;image

For all anybody knows, Rozga could have mentioned the second body in the original handwritten version of his statement!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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It was not in Rozga's interests to mention a second body, nobody asked him about it, so he never said there wasn't one!

Oh, look a edited, typed composite witness statement created by another in PC Rozga's name!!!

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1620.0;attach=7650;image

Without seeing the original, how can I -OR you- ascertain that what you're showing here is in any way different? We only have your word for it.

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For all anybody knows, Rozga could have mentioned the second body in the original handwritten version of his statement!

OR NOT. It sounds as if you're trying to create a composite to fit with what you're telling us.

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All that we know, is that the only rifle found upstairs was resting against the first floor box room window just prior to the TFG commencing its approach to enter the farmhouse door at around or by 7.30am! We have two police officers, Jeapes and Brown, both seeing it, yet oddly nobody says what became of it after the TFG entered the farmhouse! Well, something must have happened to it because it found its way from that window into an adjoining bedroom and onto the body of Sheila Caffell!!!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Without seeing the original, how can I -OR you- ascertain that what you're showing here is in any way different? We only have your word for it.

At the moment, yeah, but why aren't these scoundrels disclosing the original unedited handwritten versions of it?
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OR NOT. It sounds as if you're trying to create a composite to fit with what you're telling us.

I call for the original, let the contents of it be the judge of what the truth was / is...
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Two bodies downstairs in kitchen from 7.37am to 8.10am, with other three bodies upstairs!!

Who's was the second body found?

Why a female body of course!!

Who's female body?

A murder, and a suicide!!

Certainly not June Bambers body that's for sure!

Second body found had to be a reference to the finding of Sheila downstairs in the kitchen!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

Offline mike tesko

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The rifle at first floor box room window could not have been with Sheila's body downstairs in the kitchen (7.37am) at the time Jeapes and Brown identified it to be resting against the first floor box room window! Neither could it have been resting on top of Sheila's body on the main bedroom floor at one and the same time! This lone rifle could not have been here, there, and everywhere!
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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At the moment, yeah, but why aren't these scoundrels disclosing the original unedited handwritten versions of it?

But in order to make it fit with your claims, there HAS to be an unedited version, and there's the possibility of a stored original...................but if there is, just supposing it doesn't fit with your claims? Thus far, there's no back up for anything you've said other than it can all be verified by what the hidden originals say. If those originals no longer are in existence OR are never revealed, we'll never know, however IF they should ever see the light of day, there's a huge chance they'll reveal that Jeremy's conviction was entirely safe.