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Offline Steve_uk

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Its nothing but a side track.

If I had my way. Anyone claiming to repeat what Jeremy has told them in writing should be obliged to post a scanned image of the letter. Its in the interest of establishing the truth.

Caroline's claims to what is allegedly written in these letters has changed. Not only that but she refuses to post them. To my mind it's deserving of suspicion and distrust.
It's not necessarily a sidetrack. It's actually rather an ingenious discovery by Caroline. Of course if you believe the relatives have lied all the way through you won't accept the explanation come what may. But Jeremy has contradicted himself many times about where he put the gun, whether he fired any shots to scare the rabbits, whether he thought Nevill was injured when he rang, not to mention the downright lies about Sheila having indulged in target practice, being on the "hard stuff", the fostering saga &c.

It's why he was happy to wag his tongue on 7 August 1985 yet so reticent when arrested on 10 September.
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Offline David1819

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It's not necessarily a sidetrack. It's actually rather an ingenious discovery by Caroline.

The wallet and the alleged amount of money is in the 1991 COLP interview's. As I have already pointed out the claims have now changed and no actual letter has actually been produced.

But Jeremy has contradicted himself many times about where he put the gun, whether he fired any shots to scare the rabbits, whether he thought Nevill was injured when he rang, not to mention the downright lies about Sheila having indulged in target practice, being on the "hard stuff", the fostering saga &c.

Jeremy was honest about the shooting in Scotland. He was honest about the entering via the window on the 16th of September.

The "fostering saga" was genuine. Its in the statements of Colins mother. And various other statements.

As for the "Hard Stuff"

The jury had heard the medical evidence, principally that of Dr Ferguson. Between August 1983 and her death Sheila had suffered a psychotic illness requiring inpatient treatment. She had disturbances in her thinking process. She had severe mood disturbances. She had used cannabis and cocaine.

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The wallet and the alleged amount of money is in the 1991 COLP interview's. As I have already pointed out the claims have now changed and no actual letter has actually been produced.

Jeremy was honest about the shooting in Scotland. He was honest about the entering via the window on the 16th of September.

The "fostering saga" was genuine. Its in the statements of Colins mother. And various other statements.

As for the "Hard Stuff"

The jury had heard the medical evidence, principally that of Dr Ferguson. Between August 1983 and her death Sheila had suffered a psychotic illness requiring inpatient treatment. She had disturbances in her thinking process. She had severe mood disturbances. She had used cannabis and cocaine.
He had to admit the 16th September ingress as he was being monitored at the time. Cynics would say he was covering his tracks forensically after suspicion moved away from Sheila and onto him. Colin's mother was not present on the Tuesday night. I have no reason to doubt Julie's story that he initiated the discussion to try and sow discord between the participants. I'm also quite sure in my mind that June was attempting to reassure Sheila by that stage and would not have threatened her with removal of her boys.


Offline Caroline

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Its nothing but a side track.

If I had my way. Anyone claiming to repeat what Jeremy has told them in writing should be obliged to post a scanned image of the letter. Its in the interest of establishing the truth.

Caroline's claims to what is allegedly written in these letters has changed. Not only that but she refuses to post them. To my mind it's deserving of suspicion and distrust.

What has changed David? OK, I'll post them tomorrow at some point then you can apologise. I don't lie David, I'll leave that to you and the likes of you! What I said hasn't changed - I have just exposed more than I did before.
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I don't see why Bamber would say to AE he knew the wallet had £400 - £500 in. Unless he made a big mistake.

Although he has admitted he was looking for it.  Which is very callous so soon after the massacre. And shows he knew it had a substantial amount of money.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2017, 12:03:AM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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It will be good to see the section of AE's WS which states Bamber knew Nevill's wallet had £400 - £500 in.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

Offline Caroline

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It's not necessarily a sidetrack. It's actually rather an ingenious discovery by Caroline. Of course if you believe the relatives have lied all the way through you won't accept the explanation come what may. But Jeremy has contradicted himself many times about where he put the gun, whether he fired any shots to scare the rabbits, whether he thought Nevill was injured when he rang, not to mention the downright lies about Sheila having indulged in target practice, being on the "hard stuff", the fostering saga &c.

It's why he was happy to wag his tongue on 7 August 1985 yet so reticent when arrested on 10 September.

Don't worry Steve, I can back up what I have said but even the truth won't be good enough for the likes of David because it's something alien. I will reiterate - I don't lie. No matter what is posted here  and what proof goes with it - the hard line supporters will never take on it on-board. I guess they are hoping to be part of a bigger picture if he's ever released - pipe dreams!

If David wants the truth to be posted, I should also add that it was Jeremy who told me the blood stain on the bible is a palm print - he knows it was Jeremy who told me but has kept that to himself because not only is it suspicious that Jeremy's knows this but it also lessens the impact of his little report.

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Offline Steve_uk

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Don't worry Steve, I can back up what I have said but even the truth won't be good enough for the likes of David because it's something alien. I will reiterate - I don't lie. No matter what is posted here  and what proof goes with it - the hard line supporters will never take on it on-board. I guess they are hoping to be part of a bigger picture if he's ever released - pipe dreams!

If David wants the truth to be posted, I should also add that it was Jeremy who told me the blood stain on the bible is a palm print - he knows it was Jeremy who told me but has kept that to himself because not only is it suspicious that Jeremy's knows this but it also lessens the impact of his little report.
It's chilling and terribly sad to recall the events of that morning and the nonentity who perpetrated them.
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Offline Jane

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Its nothing but a side track.

If I had my way. Anyone claiming to repeat what Jeremy has told them in writing should be obliged to post a scanned image of the letter. Its in the interest of establishing the truth.

Caroline's claims to what is allegedly written in these letters has changed. Not only that but she refuses to post them. To my mind it's deserving of suspicion and distrust.

"Establishing the truth", eh? Curious words from someone who's refused to reveal "in the interest of establishing the truth" what his doodlings are. Might that be because they based on someone else's research? I wonder where is the TRUTH in that. Could it possibly be that he sees himself as being lauded -loudly and publicly-  as being responsible for freeing Jeremy Bamber? Could it be that he sees himself as coining it in from books and film rights? Might it be that such a person would be extremely concerned that, if the REAL truth emerges, he'll find himself covered in something FAR less sweet smelling than glory.

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I knew about the blood on the Bible from a palm in 2012,did anyone else ?? I don't think so,apart from Mike. After that it suddenly became an " important " issue  ::)

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I knew about the blood on the Bible from a palm in 2012,did anyone else ?? I don't think so,apart from Mike. After that it suddenly became an " important " issue  ::)

No  you didn't - this is an out right lie Lookout.
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No  you didn't - this is an out right lie Lookout.





It's no lie I'm afraid. How would you know if it was a lie or not anyway ??

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It's no lie I'm afraid. How would you know if it was a lie or not anyway ??

Yes it is Lookout, you knew nothing palm print until I posted about it. It's shocking the lengths you will go to and I really don't trust anything you say. You have shown your true colours of late.
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It's no lie I'm afraid. How would you know if it was a lie or not anyway ??

I think the answer to that, is that you'd go to almost ANY lengths to maintain the belief that Jeremy is innocent. The thing is shouting it loudly and telling untruths won't make him so.

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Yes it is Lookout, you knew nothing palm print until I posted about it. It's shocking the lengths you will go to and I really don't trust anything you say. You have shown your true colours of late.






The month of June 11th,2012. Don't dare to tell ME of my true-colours. Look to your own !
 Perhaps it's ME who's finding out who the back-stabbers are---------as if I didn't already know !!